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tuffr2 · 02-08-2019, 03:24 PM

I had some time to kill and my step son wants a Ford Raptor to hot rod around in. The high strung 3.5 litre eco-boost was fast and moved this truck well. I forget exactly what the specs were but I think 510 ft. lbs. of torque.

But I look at the cargo capacity...it was only 1,100 lbs.

BirchyBoy · 02-08-2019, 04:16 PM

They’re not built to haul lots of cargo. I looked at a new Power Wagon and it was only 1,650lbs or so. And that’s a 3/4 ton truck!

ASTMedic · 02-08-2019, 06:02 PM

Raptor is a half ton trucknwith the 3.5 Eco or a tuned 6.2.

CecilD · 02-08-2019, 07:41 PM

Sounds like your step-son is considering the truck for its intended use. Not a tow vehicle nor a heavy hauler.

tuffr2 · 02-11-2019, 03:03 AM

Yep, grown step son still under 30 years old like fast tings...humm, just like I did at that age.

Also he and his wife both like the way it looks...as do I.

There is one possible issue. It needs to fit in his garage. Both length and width.

Anyone know why the Raptor is so wide? No other manufacturer makes their off rise truck wider. Not the Ram Power wagon nor the Rebel. Neither does Chevy. But Ford makes the Raptor about 4" wider than the other F-150. What gives?

keymastr · 02-11-2019, 10:57 AM

Stability during high speed off road racing. It is not intended to tow, haul or fit in a garage. It is intended to go fast over rough terrain. It is a tool for a specific job, one that most purchasers will never use it for.

tuffr2 · 02-11-2019, 11:04 AM

I just watched a YouTube video of a Raptor racing in the Baja. Very impressive in that environment for sure. I can now see the wide stance comes in handy if racing the Baja.

Fun to watch too.

raineman · 02-12-2019, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by keymastr

Stability during high speed off road racing. It is not intended to tow, haul or fit in a garage. It is intended to go fast over rough terrain. It is a tool for a specific job, one that most purchasers will never use it for.

Agreed. They are everywhere around here. Neighbor bought one and decided he was going to use it to tow a large toy hauler. I talked to him about the payload. He did not believe me until he looked at the sticker that shows payload. Betting 90% of them never see dirt.

wingnut60 · 02-12-2019, 09:31 PM

My BIL in his Jeep in CO last summer was caught up to and passed by a Raptor--he was very impressed the way the full-size truck handled the rocks and ruts better than his Jeep. And having ridden in his Jeep, I can guarantee the Raptor driver was more comfortable....but still wouldn't take one on Black Bear Pass.

raineman · 02-13-2019, 05:09 AM

Yeah I agree, that is what my RZR is for.

keymastr · 02-13-2019, 07:16 AM

Yeah, great trucks for off-roading, not so much for towing.

mrgrayaz · 02-14-2019, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tuffr2

I just watched a YouTube video of a Raptor racing in the Baja. Very impressive in that environment for sure. I can now see the wide stance comes in handy if racing the Baja.

Fun to watch too.

The suspension arms are much longer - that's why the width. You want extended travel on a IFS? You build a-arms longer.

I think everyone has covered it but it's suspension is designed for high speed desert running and it had a seriously trick suspension to do it.

Fantastic truck for what it is. Terrible truck to do anything else "truck like".

mrgrayaz · 02-14-2019, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by wingnut60

....but still wouldn't take one on Black Bear Pass.

Eek. No. Talk about stress.

The Colorado ZR2 also has a very trick suspension, and is a bit narrower. Doesn't have the extended travel that the raptor has but for everything else is honestly a better choice.

Front and rear lockers too - would totally take on Imogene and Black Bear

mrgrayaz · 02-14-2019, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BirchyBoy

They’re not built to haul lots of cargo. I looked at a new Power Wagon and it was only 1,650lbs or so. And that’s a 3/4 ton truck!

Again the suspension is designed to flex and has big long soft springs to do so. Not so great for hauling. Conversely, my F-350 which has 3700lbs of payload has NO FLEX and gets stuck in 2wd on the stupidest little obstacles, it's rediculous.

Each one of the trucks mentioned on this thread arw specialists with different suspensions for different goals. Honestly its what gets people in trouble - they assume because it's a 3/4 ton truck it can do normal 3/4 ton things (nope). Same with the Raptor - "well I saw on the tv the F-150 can tow 10,000lbs with 4000lbs of cargo"....nope...