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03-08-2020, 05:26 PM
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Do you have the 5th wheel already? If not, and I say this because you do not know the exact weight 14,000 - 16,000lbs. Anyway have you consider a travel trailer? If not there are some great travel trailers with 3 slides. Here is one of my favorites: a Flagstaff 29 RSWS that can be towed with most 250/2500 series trucks.
https://youtu.be/NnG23txf0NA
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03-08-2020, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Cumminsfan
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This did very well towing 16,000# on the IKE with the boys from TFL Trucks. Mileage sucks a bit towing and empty.
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03-09-2020, 05:39 AM
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I priced a 2020 F-350 SRW 2WD Lariat with the Lariat Ultimate package and panoramic sunroof, 7.3, extra towing package, fancy paint, led lights, bed liner, tailgate step, and a few more options for $61,000.
That means a XLT without all the fancy options would be $55,000 before discount which should be around $8,000 - $10,000.
I bet you could buy a XLT 7.3 2WD out the door for just under $50,000.
Oh - with 3.73 gears with electronic locking rear differential.
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03-09-2020, 09:54 AM
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I have a 2020 f350 with the 7.3 gas and 4.30 gears. Have only traveled about 1200 miles from MA to TN. Average is about 7.8 to 8 mpg. Maybe gas mileage will increase after I get some mileage on the truck. I was hoping to get 7mpg and am more than happy with what I am currently geting. I am grossing out at 22,000 lbs. No power problems at all. I can go up any hills at 65 if I wish. Just tapping the brakes going downhill downshifts the transmission. It holds back just as good as my 2011 diesel did. I do purposely take my foot out of it going uphill to save on gas. At 5000 rmps it will increase speed if I wish to. Given the price difference between a gas truck vs a diesel the gas is cheaper all around. $8000 difference will buy a lot of gas. My old 6.7 diesel averaged 10 to 10.5 mpg towing. With diesel going between 40 and 50 cents higher than gas the cost for fuel is about the same. Maintenance costs are a lot cheaper than a diesel. I can also use the truck as a daily driver and not worry about messing up the emission system. I have never seen a gas engine shut down once the check engine light comes on. The diesel shut me down twice because of sensor problems.
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03-09-2020, 11:22 AM
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All of us grey beards towed all types of RV'S for many years with gasoline engines
Three or four speed transmission as well
All of us that towed often went Diesel
OP will be fine, he just should avoid races when towing
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03-09-2020, 01:50 PM
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I tow with a 2019 f250 lariat 6.2 373. My trailer is 8k dry, 10k loaded. I feel like the truck pulls and handles this fine. Not sure I'd wanna try a whole lot more then that though. The 350 will be fine and the gas motor will certainly do it. But you'll be struggling imo.
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03-09-2020, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by brialin
I have a 2020 f350 with the 7.3 gas and 4.30 gears. Have only traveled about 1200 miles from MA to TN. Average is about 7.8 to 8 mpg. Maybe gas mileage will increase after I get some mileage on the truck. I was hoping to get 7mpg and am more than happy with what I am currently geting. I am grossing out at 22,000 lbs. No power problems at all. I can go up any hills at 65 if I wish. Just tapping the brakes going downhill downshifts the transmission. It holds back just as good as my 2011 diesel did. I do purposely take my foot out of it going uphill to save on gas. At 5000 rmps it will increase speed if I wish to. Given the price difference between a gas truck vs a diesel the gas is cheaper all around. $8000 difference will buy a lot of gas. My old 6.7 diesel averaged 10 to 10.5 mpg towing. With diesel going between 40 and 50 cents higher than gas the cost for fuel is about the same. Maintenance costs are a lot cheaper than a diesel. I can also use the truck as a daily driver and not worry about messing up the emission system. I have never seen a gas engine shut down once the check engine light comes on. The diesel shut me down twice because of sensor problems.
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Thanks for the review. I've been wanting to hear of some real world experience on this engine rather than the usual internet blather. I think Ford may have hit a home run with this engine!
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03-17-2020, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ddozier234
I don’t know for sure, but I was told that the oil changes, fuel filters an any parts that have to be replaced along with the increase in gas price could make it more expensive to operate. Cost of parts an repairs are a lot more. Is that not the case?
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Price of fuel will be negated by increase in efficiency. I dont pay for oil changes in my work dodge, but i went to a firestone service center for oil, fuel, amd air filters, oil change and tire rotation and it came to over 500$. I dont know what a gas truck would cost for a similer service. My 6.0 powerstroke is a little under 200$ for fuel filters, oil filter, and synthetic oil (100 of that is just oil).
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03-17-2020, 07:33 PM
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Forget any 6 liter gasser for that weight. Get the new 7.3 Ford with 4:30 axles. That’s what you need. I have a 2017 F250 CCLB with 4:30 and it would be stressed. The Godzilla engine is designed for your application. You will have to order it to get the hearing you need. If you don’t need four wheel drive then skip it. If you will be in snow that’s another story. No one I know has every towed in four wheel drive. I know of no four wheel trucks used on the ice roads in Canada hauling massive loads. They have Diesel engines but only rear wheel drive.
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03-17-2020, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 09 harley
Forget any 6 liter gasser for that weight. Get the new 7.3 Ford with 4:30 axles. That’s what you need. I have a 2017 F250 CCLB with 4:30 and it would be stressed. The Godzilla engine is designed for your application. You will have to order it to get the hearing you need. If you don’t need four wheel drive then skip it. If you will be in snow that’s another story. No one I know has every towed in four wheel drive. I know of no four wheel trucks used on the ice roads in Canada hauling massive loads. They have Diesel engines but only rear wheel drive.
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I don't think my older 6.0 gasser would be happy with 16k lbs on anything over a 3% grade but I'd really like to try it with the new 6.6 gasser. I'm certain the 6.6 diesel easily outmatches it but it could be and should be towable by the gasser.
I have towed for hundreds of miles in 4WD before. Feels a lot better to tow on icy roads or through heavy snow in 4WD vs RWD.
The O.P. didn't appear to want to spend all that much on a new truck, so the 7.3 2020 Ford is a moot point, as is the new GM 6.6 gas.
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03-18-2020, 10:23 AM
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front_streetside.jpg (22.0 KB) YOU DON'T NEED A 2500 DIESEL.
Jay D.
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03-18-2020, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Jay D.
front_streetside.jpg (22.0 KB) YOU DON'T NEED A 2500 DIESEL.
Jay D.
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And FRONT wheel drive to boot!
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03-18-2020, 11:05 AM
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That car is as big as a 250/2500 series truck or at least close.
Is that car really FWD, I would not think so.
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03-18-2020, 01:10 PM
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yep it it is. chain gear front wheel drive. the difference in 6.0 to 6.6 is only like 30 cubic inches. still a bit but not huge. bore and stroke is critical for torque. 366 is a 6.0 and 6.6 is a 400.
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