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Old 11-01-2022, 11:14 AM   #15
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Just for grins, play around with this online towing calculator, using your tow vehicle and trailer. It is accurate, impartial, and eliminates the chest-beating bravado frequently encountered.
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You are right, but that's a bit *IF*; I think his whole point was that in the real world, the 1/2 ton (for eg.) will never make it to 13,000 lbs without being well over RAWR/GVWR/tire max ratings, etc.
Agree if the 13000 lb trailer is a rv (TT/5th wheel) with a fixed hitch weight.
However as I pointed out earlier LDT mfg "tow ratings" cover all types of trailers...not just a rv trailer.

In the real world out here right now we still have '00-'06 1500HD GM trucks on the road with 6.0 engine 8600 gvwr and 6k rawr load E tires that would tow a 13k rv TT and stay w/i gvwr/rawr/tire load ratings.

And a mid '00s 1500 Dodge Mega cab 5.7 hemi with a 8510 gvwr and 6k rawrs load E tires. This truck sits on a 3/4 ton frame/chassis.

Again...mfg tow rating aren't just for a rv trailer but covers all type of trailers (think dump trailers/flatdeck trailers/etc that hitch weight depends on how the trailer is loaded.

Will my wifes 1500 chevy with a 7200 gvwr and 4000 rawr safely tow a 13k rv trailer ??? nope..numbers don't match.
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You keep forgetting that just because you are w/i all weight ratings that does not mean what you think it does. Here are the specs on a Jayco 330RSTS.

It is 49.08 feet long and over 12' tall. It is a travel trailer. You are saying that a 2002 Chevy 1500HD can tow this at the speed limit on the highway?

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You keep forgetting that just because you are w/i all weight ratings that does not mean what you think it does. Here are the specs on a Jayco 330RSTS.

It is 49.08 feet long and over 12' tall. It is a travel trailer. You are saying that a 2002 Chevy 1500HD can tow this at the speed limit on the highway?

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I don't see where the Jayco 330RSTS is that length, but, still more than what I would ever think of towing with my 2020 Silverado 1500 (not HD).

Link to specs:

https://www.jayco.com/rvs/travel-tra...ilers/330rsts/

Dry Hitch Weight (lbs) 1,300
Unloaded Vehicle Weight (lbs) 10,600
Cargo Carrying Capacity (lbs) 1,395
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (lbs) 11,995

Exterior Length (overall) 40' 1"
Exterior Height (with A/C) 12' 2"
Exterior Width 8' 1"
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I miss keyed the length. It is just a tad over 40' sorry.

The Jayco 330 RSTS is the largest travel trailer that I have seen. I would not tow this with the a F-150 with the HDPP option or a Titan XD. Even if the rear axle had the capacity.
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I miss keyed the length. It is just a tad over 40' sorry.

The Jayco 330 RSTS is the largest travel trailer that I have seen. I would not tow this with the a F-150 with the HDPP option or a Titan XD. Even if the rear axle had the capacity.
Yep; at 12,000 lbs GVWR, 40+ ft long and a realistic loaded tongue weight of around 1,500 lbs, that trailer is WELL into HD pickup territory IMO.

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Old 11-09-2022, 09:34 AM   #22
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It's pretty simple. When in doubt move up in series.
If an F150 is borderline then get an F250 and so on.
If you have to worry about small things then you're pushing it too close.
Or get a smaller trailer. It ain't rocket science.
Get this and remove all doubt. Also be protected from future upsizing of trailers.
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Get this and remove all doubt. Also be protected from future upsizing of trailers.
Nice truck but I have no doubts and figured I'm future protected for any trailer I would buy with my F350 CC diesel dually currently towing my ORV 25RDS

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