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Old 01-25-2021, 05:36 PM   #1
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GVWR package or Camper Package?

Ordering a 2021 F350 to serve as my all in one vehicle (daily driver, tow vehicle, hauler for wood etc). I currently have a travel trailer, but want a vehicle that will migrate to a 5th wheel or at times a slide in camper for simpler trips.


I can't tell if I need the 10,000 GVWR package or the Camper Package for my all in one retirement truck. Advice?
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Ordering a 2021 F350 to serve as my all in one vehicle (daily driver, tow vehicle, hauler for wood etc). I currently have a travel trailer, but want a vehicle that will migrate to a 5th wheel or at times a slide in camper for simpler trips.


I can't tell if I need the 10,000 GVWR package or the Camper Package for my all in one retirement truck. Advice?
You want to avoid the 10K GVWR package that seriously derates the legal capacity of the truck. I'd certainly expect ~12K GVWR for a SRW 350 or 14K for a DRW. Camper package would be nice to have, but you can easily get away without it.

I'd go for a 14K DRW if you want this to be your last truck. The extra two wheels don't make them much more difficult as a DD, but provide a lot more options when it comes to hauling/towing as you figure out what works for you down the road.
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Get the Highest GVWR available in the Model you want.
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Okay, so the 11,400 (SRW)/13,000 (DRW Only) GVWR Package. My real reluctance for DRW is that I do some camping off of trails and in other off road situations that are already tight for a standard truck.
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Okay, so the 11,400 (SRW)/13,000 (DRW Only) GVWR Package. My real reluctance for DRW is that I do some camping off of trails and in other off road situations that are already tight for a standard truck.

13K sounds low for a DRW. Should be 14K.

We take our DRW on trails and through tight spaces all the time. Choose a color that doesn't show scratches.
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Do NOT select any GVWR package. Those only derate the sticker for insurance purposes, that's why they're free.

Build out with heavy service front springs and camper package for Max payload and axle ratings.
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Do c&c trucks have a narrower rear track than pickups? Maybe get a c&c truck and a single wheel box?
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I know you say you run on narrow trails/roads. Are you planning on just taking the truck or the camper/5th wheel also? If so, most of those will be the same width as your dually......

Can you go with SRW, sure.
Do people haul with SRW all the time, sure.
Will you be able to do it, sure.

If you want to stay in weight and in safety a SRW will limit you, especially in a truck camper.

My last two trucks have been DRW and used as daily driver and off road. Sure they are wider then a SRW, but not by that much.
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Fleet Ford specs show F350 SRW 4wd 6.7 diesel crew cab 174 wb can have a 12400 GVWR but more importantly has the bigger 7230 RAWR = the camper package/heavy service package.

Be careful ordering a F350 SRW as they have around a dozen GVWR ranging from small 10000 on up to 12400 lbs.

What you want is the F350 SRW in the cab/ drive train/engine you want and the 7230 RAWR. That 7230 RAWR will give you the most load carrying capacity.
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Going off road in a drw isn’t just about the width. Better consider every aspect of it. Unless your going for the largest of the large campers with all the slides available , you don’t need a dually.
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Do NOT select any GVWR package. Those only derate the sticker for insurance purposes, that's why they're free.

Build out with heavy service front springs and camper package for Max payload and axle ratings.
I can vouch for that....I have the 10K derate on my 2019 SRW F350 XLT, 5th wheel prep package. Sticker payload is 3,271. I bought off the lot so knew what I was getting and it's plenty for us for the next several years, but as stated it will definitely cost you some payload.

I say 'some', because you really need to study the build guide carefully. In my idle research after the fact, I don't think I could have even gotten 11.4 GVWR unless I found a diesel, 4x4 longbed.....so order accordingly. As an example, it looks like even without the derate, my particular configuration (6.2L, 4x2, 160" wb crewcab) tops out at 10.2K - costing me only 200 pounds. (See page 12 of the attached document).
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Thanks folks. It is just me and a dog, so long bed, supercab. I can get the 11,400 gvwr with the 7.3 gas SRW (4.30 rear) with the camper package for the rear sway bar. I think that is what I will spec. I have to order it as no dealers around here are getting supercabs or longbeds.


I know diesel would be great, but I can work on the 7.3, don't need the extra torque and will be very happy with the extra payload and simplicity of an engine that I can work on in the middle of the boondocks. Since I retire in 90 days, I want simplicity of repair and operation.



Folks on this forum have said the F350 (after 2018) even with the GVWR package still rides well enough for a daily driver.



It will be a step up from my beloved 03 silverado.
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Going off road in a drw isn’t just about the width. Better consider every aspect of it. Unless your going for the largest of the large campers with all the slides available , you don’t need a dually.

No, but most of the issues are grossly overstated. Or maybe I just have enough junk (weight) in my truck that in thousands of off-pavement miles, I've never had issues I didn't have in a SRW with similar tires. In a few cases, I've been able to "float" on sand/loose dirt where my old SRW would sink.

Most of the people who say to avoid them have never actually owned one and just parrot what they've read elsewhere.
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I wouldnt bank on being able to work on a new gas motor much better than any of the new diesels. None are exactly user friendly.
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