Originally Posted by kotz
My question is will my B & W patriot work or would it require a slider mount due to the decreased bed length?
I would install the Old Patriot in the new trailer, and drag the old trailer to an empty parking lot. Turn as sharp as possible doing "figure 8s" while someone watches the front of the trailer and the rear of the cab to be sure there is no cab to trailer contact. The new truck, old hitch, and old trailer should pass that test with flying colors.
Next, in that same empty parking lot, back the 5er into a jackknife. If you can achieve a 90° jackknife without cab to trailer contact, then you're good to go when jackknifing in that direction. Next, check if you can also jackknife in the other direction without cab to trailer contact.
But you'll probably have cab to trailer contact before you reach 90°. In that case, notice exactly how much of a jackknife you can have before cab to trailer contact, when backing up both left and right. Lots of folks get by with 75° or 80° max jackknife.
Only you can decide if you must have a slider hitch. If you must have a slider, the Patriot is not adaptable to a slider base, so you'll need to invest in a B&W Companion slider or some other brand.
If you decide you need a slider hitch, think about manual or automatic. With a manual slider, such as the B&W Companion slider, you must be awake enough to never put the truck in reverse gear until AFTER
you slide the hitch.
I'm too forgetful to rely on a manual slider, so I must have either a long bed or an automatic slider hitch. The industry standard for an automatic slider is the PullRite SuperGlide. One version of the SuperGlide uses industry standard rails (ISR). So if you install the Patriot on ISR, then if you decide you need a slider, you would already have the ISR to plug in the SuperGlide.
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