How to dertermine truck's capacities BEFORE buying?

[bmcgc]

Double Post

[tuffr2]

If the OP is looking at 150/1500 series trucks - agree with the current payload of 1,800 to 2,100 lbs. In a couple of years I would expect the same or higher payload.

Just like the bigger trucks the 150/1500 series has also been improved a lot. Ford Eco-Boost is the top dog for power and diesel like towing for a small truck. And the fancy Ram is really super fancy in the upper trims. The 2021 F-150 is fancy too.
The new GM trucks are big and are great in their own right also with maybe the best payloads.

You can not go wrong with any of the 150/1500 series trucks for the right sized trailer.

[ArcticGabe]

Originally Posted by tuffr2

If the OP is looking at 150/1500 series trucks - agree with the current payload of 1,800 to 2,100 lbs. In a couple of years I would expect the same or higher payload.

Just like the bigger trucks the 150/1500 series has also been improved a lot. Ford Eco-Boost is the top dog for power and diesel like towing for a small truck. And the fancy Ram is really super fancy in the upper trims. The 2021 F-150 is fancy too.
The new GM trucks are big and are great in their own right also with maybe the best payloads.

You can not go wrong with any of the 150/1500 series trucks for the right sized trailer.

I currently have an F-150, and it is a fantastic truck. The 3.5L Eco-Boost is a wonderful towing engine with all of the low end torque. I tow my snowmobile trailer with it like there's nothing back there.

I am getting our first TT with a GVWR of 7000 lbs. I realize this is near the upper end of what this truck can handle, and being fully aware of this, I am not afraid to pack modestly and keep my speeds down. Also, since we are flat-landers I don't need to be concerned about grades. Our intention is to use it locally (~150 miles) for the first couple years to get acquainted with it.

I am looking at F-250s for my next truck, at which time we will likely start to venture further out. Also, I would anticipate that our next TT will be somewhat larger. I'd like to consider a modest sized 5er for the next trailer that is well within the limits of the 250.
I realize there are those who will just say get a 350 and be done with it. But unladen ride quality is also important to me.

[tuffr2]

In 1 or 2 years max the F-250 will have a new spiffy(er) interior. People that say buy a F-350 vs a F-250 (including me) need to realize for every 7 F-250's there is 1 F-350 at most dealers. So finding a F-350 is much more difficult.

Now if you want a small(ish) sized 5th wheel you will need a gas F-250 because a diesel F-250 does not have enough payload. But saying that, I would recommend ordering a truck the way (color and options) you want it. There are not many F-250's with the 5th wheel prep package. If I was ordering I would just order a F-350 with the 5th wheel prep gas or diesel. Bed length will come into play if you want a larger fuel tank and a much higher payload. The F-350 SRW truck with a 8' bed is an impressive truck with over 4,000lbs of payload and bigger fuel tank.

A F-350 long bed gives you a lot more 5th wheel options.

[Garyp4951]

Rhagfo, I'm confused, 5411-2700-1400=1311

[bmcgc]

A F250 is going to have somewhere in the neighborhood of 4000# payload capacity.

A nicely equiped F250 Supercab, XLT, 4x4, 7.3 gas will run around 55k, thats pretty much the same price as a similarly equiped 3.5EB F150.

[Old-Biscuit]

Payload----horse pucky

What is the RAWR and how much can you add before exceeding that

[nicky8668]

Originally Posted by bmcgc

A F250 is going to have somewhere in the neighborhood of 4000# payload capacity.

A nicely equiped F250 Supercab, XLT, 4x4, 7.3 gas will run around 55k, thats pretty much the same price as a similarly equiped 3.5EB F150.

I have F250 7.3 XLT CCSB 4x4 FX4 with premium package and the payload is 2995 lbs. I wish my payload is close to 4000 lbs, but it’s probably going to be a 1 ton.

[tuffr2]

nicky6886 - that payload makes sense because the payload of a 7.3 Lariat trim was 2,885lbs.

A F-350 8' bed would have a payload of over 4,000lbs but not a F-250.

[jimcumminsw]

I hate to rain on everyone parade, but there is away to figure out what a new truck can tow! It is called SAE J2807 Towing Requirments. This standard was released in 2015 by SAE and most trucks manufacturers have agreed to meet this standard by a certain date.

Ram has published what their trucks can tow in their towing specs in a PDF format which you can access in Rams on line web site.

I would not hesitated in buying any truck manufactured to the SAE 2807 Towing specs. These have been tested by the manufacturered to meet this spec.

[tuffr2]

GM is the only manufacturer that puts this information on their truck capacity sticker. Ram does not Ford does not.

I find it interesting the SAE 2807 does not list rear axle capacity when towing a gooseneck trailer.

[ArcticGabe]

Originally Posted by jimcumminsw

I hate to rain on everyone parade, but there is away to figure out what a new truck can tow! It is called SAE J2807 Towing Requirments. This standard was released in 2015 by SAE and most trucks manufacturers have agreed to meet this standard by a certain date.

Ram has published what their trucks can tow in their towing specs in a PDF format which you can access in Rams on line web site.

I would not hesitated in buying any truck manufactured to the SAE 2807 Towing specs. These have been tested by the manufacturered to meet this spec.

Yes, this is true. However, manufacturers test to J2807 with only their most capable configuration (i.e. fewest options, highest axle, max payload package, 4x2, etc). This rating only applies to this one configuration. As you add options and change configurations, it changes what any one specific vehicle can actually do. This is the whole point of this thread... sorting out how all these options affect capability.

[kdauto]

Originally Posted by ArcticGabe

Yes, this is true. However, manufacturers test to J2807 with only their most capable configuration (i.e. fewest options, highest axle, max payload package, 4x2, etc). This rating only applies to this one configuration. As you add options and change configurations, it changes what any one specific vehicle can actually do. This is the whole point of this thread... sorting out how all these options affect capability.

The sticker on the door jamb lists tested and approved weights for THAT specific vehicle and option configuration. This is totally different from the BS "max tow" weights that are commonly touted on TV and magazine ads.

[bmcgc]

Originally Posted by nicky8668

I have F250 7.3 XLT CCSB 4x4 FX4 with premium package and the payload is 2995 lbs. I wish my payload is close to 4000 lbs, but it’s probably going to be a 1 ton.

Crap, thats not much better than the 2039# in my 2020 F150 considering that the F250 is a much more capible towing platform.