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11-17-2020, 12:30 PM
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Is 2021 RAM 1500 Diesel Enough Truck?
I have the a 2021 RAM 1500 diesel on order. It will have the tow package and air suspension, 5'7" bed. As near as I can tell, it will have a tow capacity of somewhere between 8010-78xx and a max payload of 1800 lbs. I am considering a Lance 2285: dry weight 4930, GVWR 7000, hitch weight 635, overall length 27'. So:
1 - No problem
2 - Iffy
3 - Don't do it
If (3) and probably if (2), I will look at smaller trailers. HD truck not an option. Been there - done that.
Thanks in advance for your opinions
Mike
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11-17-2020, 01:29 PM
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Location: Palm Coast Florida
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A Lance is areodynamic and does not have the height of say the Jayco Eagle travel trailers.
I think you are way better than iffy.
I say 'No Problem'.
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11-17-2020, 03:02 PM
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Nice looking trailer
Has a 13% Dry weight ratio so at 7000# GVWR tongue would be roughly 910#
Enjoy the NEW Truck and the NEW Trailer
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11-17-2020, 03:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by myancey254
I have the a 2021 RAM 1500 diesel on order. It will have the tow package and air suspension, 5'7" bed. As near as I can tell, it will have a tow capacity of somewhere between 8010-78xx and a max payload of 1800 lbs. I am considering a Lance 2285: dry weight 4930, GVWR 7000, hitch weight 635, overall length 27'. So:
1 - No problem
2 - Iffy
3 - Don't do it
If (3) and probably if (2), I will look at smaller trailers. HD truck not an option. Been there - done that.
Thanks in advance for your opinions
Mike 
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Really depends on what will be in the truck.
Just you or with your spouse, you will be way under.
Family of 5 + pets + full bed of gears = don’t do it
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11-17-2020, 03:47 PM
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I'm inclined to say enough truck as long as the hitch is sufficiently rated for the tongue weight.
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11-17-2020, 04:15 PM
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If you build one on Lances site with normal options the UVW will be around 5450 lbs. Add 1,000 lbs =/- for camp stuff and that puts you around 6450. 12% TW is around 775 lbs.
Add 100 for a WDH. 875 lbs from your CCC of 1800 (?) leaves a fair amount for passengers and truck stuff.
I would say proceed with caution.
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11-17-2020, 04:41 PM
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As for power, no problem. We towed a 24' trailer all over the countryside with the EcoDiesel in a Jeep Grand Cherokee, and it towed just fine. Even up and down the mountains in Colorado, Idaho, Utah, OR, and WA.
I doubt your 27 footer is much heavier than our fully loaded 24 footer.
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11-17-2020, 07:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by myancey254
I have the a 2021 RAM 1500 diesel on order. It will have the tow package and air suspension, 5'7" bed. As near as I can tell, it will have a tow capacity of somewhere between 8010-78xx and a max payload of 1800 lbs. I am considering a Lance 2285: dry weight 4930, GVWR 7000, hitch weight 635, overall length 27'. So:
1 - No problem
2 - Iffy
3 - Don't do it
If (3) and probably if (2), I will look at smaller trailers. HD truck not an option. Been there - done that.
Thanks in advance for your opinions
Mike 
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Well, how much do you and your passengers weigh and how much stuff will be in the truck bed and cab?
My guesstimate is actual tongue weight with a moderately loaded trailer will, be in the 1000-1100 lb range. Take your 1800 payload -1100 lbs leaves 700 lbs.
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11-17-2020, 09:42 PM
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Location: Dalton, OH
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cumminsfan
If you build one on Lances site with normal options the UVW will be around 5450 lbs. Add 1,000 lbs =/- for camp stuff and that puts you around 6450. 12% TW is around 775 lbs.
Add 100 for a WDH. 875 lbs from your CCC of 1800 (?) leaves a fair amount for passengers and truck stuff.
I would say proceed with caution.
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We utilize a Hensley Arrow WD hitch which is a heavy hitch added to 720 lb tongue weight, but the weight distribution transfers about 20% (200 lbs) back to the trailer. You have more payload capacity than our TV so you will be fine. If we take along heavy items we pack them over the wheels of the travel trailer.
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11-18-2020, 09:25 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2013
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So far the average is 1.6. About halfway between No Problem and Iffy
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11-18-2020, 10:04 AM
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Location: St. George, UT
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I would also give it a 1.5. Like was mentioned stick with the basic options as they will add up quickly.
Have the optioned tri-5 propane tanks up front on our 1995, after three years still haven’t used the third tank yet. Definitely go with the Dexter factory lift.
A good quality WDH will be required.
Love the 2285, but where we go our 1995 is sometimes too big.
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11-18-2020, 12:02 PM
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I would doubt that you actually have the 1800# payload. my laramie only has 1324# and it does not have the dsl. seems like they are always heavy and reduce the available payload some. If you know the vin there is a website you can go to and enter the vin and find exactly the cargo amount for your truck. I looked up one just now and it had 1468# for cargo and 8368# for towing, so still more than my laramie
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11-18-2020, 12:24 PM
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Location: Tucson, AZ
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We have friends staying with us. Their almost new 1/2 ton pickup transmission just went because of the trailer they are towing. They now wish they had opted for a 3/4 ton.
My opinion: With 1/2 ton pickups I follow the advice to cut the rated towing capacity in half for regular towing. It it's a one time deal, then the full capacity can be used, but the process will be pain full.
It's difficult to understand why you would put yourself in this situation when you could have just as easily ordered a 3/4 ton pickup and not worry, especially since the MSRP of the Eco Diesel Dodge is well over that of a 3/4 ton.
Wish you the best of luck!
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11-18-2020, 01:55 PM
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The OP said an HD truck is not an option.
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