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Old 07-27-2020, 05:30 PM   #1
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Is This A Good Match

Going through the numbers and getting confused (talking with wife) about towing want we want to buy vs the numbers. Looking to buy an Beacon 34RBL 5th wheel, 18,000 GVW with 2,600 Hitch. Buying a Chev or Ram 1 Ton SRW truck to tow the unit.

Can we/are we within the numbers for towing with that combination?

Thanks,

Craig
  • GVWR : 18,000
  • Dry Weight : 13,000 *
  • Cargo Carrying : 5,000
  • Width : 101" **
  • Height : 12'11" ***
  • Length : 34'11"
  • Fresh Water Cap. : 70 gal
  • Grey Water Cap. : 90 gal
  • Black Water Cap. : 45 gal
  • Water Heater : 10 gal
  • Furnace : 42K BTU
  • LP Cap. : 60 lbs
  • Hitch Weight : 2,600
  • RAM Mega Cab, 4x4 Diesel, 3:73 Rear End, SWR
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Old 07-27-2020, 05:56 PM   #2
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It all depends on the version you would get and the options. Best to find the towing charts. Do you want all the bells and whistles in a crew cab? Diesel or gas? What gearing? 4wd or 2wd?
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Old 07-27-2020, 06:03 PM   #3
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No, that is not a good match. Any 5th wheel with a GVWR of 18,000lbs needs a dually truck.

You probably already knew that though.
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Old 07-27-2020, 06:36 PM   #4
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Ok your really in a area that you need to question and answer a few things. But before I go on let me explain where my experience is giving me. I own a 2015 redwood RL38 , from the factory it claims to have 2600lb pin weight and its GVW rateing was 16,500 lbs and its shipping tag is 14,680 lbs. We are NOT full timer but we are loaded well . I have changed out the 7K axles to 8K morRyde IS because it was in my opinion unsafe with a 1 ton SRW , it just bounce around to much and would upset the truck . I have weighted the trailer its 17,300 ready to go with 100 gallons of fresh water. The pin weight is right around 3600 lbs. I am over my rear axle gross rating of 7000 lbs by 400lbs! I am at slightly over the MAX combine weight rating for the truck assuming I have all 3 of my fuel tanks full (85 gallons). So your thinking well with only 36 gallons of fuel and 20 gallons of fresh water I am under the max by a hair. True your correct But I can tell you for sure it will do the job but at times it doesn't make me feel safe. My plan assuming the economy looks reasonably stable this fall I am buying a 2020 crew cab 4x4 GMC DRW with a Duramax and 10 speed.

Please take my advice and ask yourself how do I want to use this trailer and can I restrain myself and NOT put everything I want in it . If you answered yes then your bare min truck is a 1 ton SRW however you may rethink this after you get 1 season of towing. I have pulled out trailer about 5000 miles so far with MANY upgrades to the truck. #1 air bags , #2 19.5" tires and wheels that can hold 5000 lbs each tire , #3 upgraded off road shocks , #4 anti roll bar that is much stiffer then stock , #5 front steering stablizer to help control the heavy tires , #6 disk brakes to stop the freight train because the 7K drums are a joke , #7 MorRyde IS 8K with shocks to help manage the front to back movement common with long trailer. #8 MorRyde pin box to make it feel more stable and help with chucking .

In my opinion if your looking to pull a 15,000GVW 5th wheel or larger you need to really think DRW!

Or does it make more sense to get a duel rear wheel truck ????
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Old 07-27-2020, 06:39 PM   #5
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Going through the numbers and getting confused (talking with wife) about towing want we want to buy vs the numbers. Looking to buy an Beacon 34RBL 5th wheel, 18,000 GVW with 2,600 Hitch. Buying a Chev or Ram 1 Ton SRW truck to tow the unit.

Can we/are we within the numbers for towing with that combination?

Thanks,

Craig
  • GVWR : 18,000
  • Dry Weight : 13,000 *
  • Cargo Carrying : 5,000
  • Width : 101" **
  • Height : 12'11" ***
  • Length : 34'11"
  • Fresh Water Cap. : 70 gal
  • Grey Water Cap. : 90 gal
  • Black Water Cap. : 45 gal
  • Water Heater : 10 gal
  • Furnace : 42K BTU
  • LP Cap. : 60 lbs
  • Hitch Weight : 2,600
  • RAM Mega Cab, 4x4 Diesel, 3:73 Rear End, SWR
Go up to a dually, you will like it better for towing. Our unit is bigger than the one you are looking at and we run a dually Ram. Also consider getting the 4:10 rear end. Some are concerned about using a dually as a daily driver, but after driving for a bit it will become second nature to driving/parking it.
With the Megacab you will want to get a slider hitch, if you stay with the 5th wheel hitch, with the short bed setup.
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Old 07-28-2020, 09:42 PM   #6
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Think I'll rent a dully for a week and see if it is something I can live with driving around town.

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Old 07-28-2020, 10:18 PM   #7
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When I drove a dually it did not seem to be a big deal. My dually was a F-450 so it was very easy to turn into a parking space. Easier than my current F-250.

Now, I think walking is good. With that mindset I always found easy parking away from other cars.

What I found most interesting with a dually truck is that it never got a door ding. Even when I parked close to cars and SUV's no dings. I think the wide hips helped. That plus the running boards would stop a car door from hitting it.

There are advantages to driving a dually too. You are safer if in an accident as it is proven the bigger vehicle wins. If you get tee boned by a car what do you think would happen. Remember the car hood is lower than where you are sitting.

I think you will like it once you try it.

Plus the dually really shines when towing.
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18k gvwr is definitely dually material.
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I went to a DRW last year for my daily with some hesitation after driving 3/4 tons for my daily for the last 10 years. I can honestly say the only thing I don't like about it is the turning radius, but that is more a function of the long bed than the DRW. And I really, really like the long bed for pretty much everything other than turning radius, especially hooking up and backing up the fiver. Weighing all the pros and cons, for me, I'm not interested in going back to an SRW. The DRW tows everything heavy so much better it is really a no brainer.
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Well parking way out is not a big problem for me, as I usually park further out when by myself. With the wife in the truck or car we use her handicap sticker in the window, those spots are wider.

As I said, I'll have to rent a dully and see if I can get use to driving something that just seems so huge. Driving my 2015 RAM 4x4 Diesel around National Parks was more than big enough and now a dully to add more size is what has me nervous.
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Would it be easier to pick a lighter 5th wheel. Maybe one with a 14,000lb GVW? That way you could pull it with a SRW truck.

Again with a 350/3500 SRW truck the rear axle capacity is going to be 7,300lbs. With a DRW truck the rear axle capacity is 10,000lbs.

If you are set on a 5th wheel with a 18,000lb GVW then -

If you can swing for a F-450 which is probably the easiest dually to drive because of the reduced turning radius.

Dually trucks shine when towing and when in a face off with a mad buffalo.
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As already stated, once your over 15K GVWR it's dully time!
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Would it be easier to pick a lighter 5th wheel. Maybe one with a 14,000lb GVW? That way you could pull it with a SRW truck.
Can't find any 5er with a build quality we like. All the other brands with good quality build are all GVWR 16,800. The model mention in my post 18,000 GVWR. The model down from that one is 16,800. The difference in GVWR between the two is the 7,000 to 8,000 pound axles.



Anyway, will be test driving a dully in the near future.
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