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Old 07-27-2020, 12:12 AM   #1
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It's Official: Truck for 5th wheel towing

I'm an rv owner as of today along with my awesome wife. We got a 30 foot 5th wheel. Now we need a truck to pull it. Salseman said 9 days, finance said 2 weeks.
I'm on the fence about what to pull it with.
Dry is 7225
Gvwr 9495
Hitch weight 1325.
If a 3.5 eco boost with heavy towing rating of 12900
Payload 3200.
My experience in life and using trucks or vans for work is get enough truck.
I wouldn't even think about it if I was close to max towing. I drove the eco boost and it feels like enough. I have 20k pound f550 diesel and it works great for work.
I want the half ton for daily driver, comfort, and after Un hitching. But I don't want that feeling of man this thing behind me is heavy.
I don't care if I need to install new springs and I'll put in air bags. But are the brakes and etc enough.
I would love a little feedback, like yeah 150 is enough or get the 250 super duty. Maybe I'LL check out dodge. I've always been and have had good luck with Ford. And Chevy isn't an option.
My research so far says the 150 is good enough. And they market the trailer as a 150 series for half ton trucks.
It's almost the smallest 5th wheel you can get.
Thanks so much for any feedback.
I'm 61 and have been on a few forums over my life. They are often a great source of info.

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Old 07-27-2020, 08:00 AM   #2
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More often than not, you will upgrade to a larger fifth wheel. GET THE BIGGER TRUCK! You cant have enough truck!

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Old 07-27-2020, 08:04 AM   #3
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Well you will need to special order the F150 to get the high payload package. If you can get it with above 3,000# payload you should be able to tow that 5er with in numbers.
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Old 07-27-2020, 08:11 AM   #4
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2500 series teucks can be had for the same and often less than a f150 eco. Get more truck.
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Old 07-27-2020, 08:18 AM   #5
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You're already on the wrong foot if you're working from Dry Weight and published Hitch Weights.

You'll never own or tow a trailer at dry weight so it's a mythical number.

Published hitch weights are notoriously under reported sometimes actually running twice what the manaufacturer claims.

Tow capacity numbers are misleading, they don't really mean that you can actually tow a trailer of that weight. You will always exceed your carrying capacity long before hitting your tow capacity.

Work from your trailers GVWR and use 22.5% of that as your average hitch weight to do your calculations from.

Study up and know what carrying capacity and tow capacity means and how those numbers are determined.

Concentrate on staying within your truck's carrying capacity and all your other numbers should fall in line. Even better try to stay within 80% of your carrying capacity to have a safety margin. Pencil and a big chief are fine for getting into the ball park, but the scales will tell the true story.
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Old 07-27-2020, 08:30 AM   #6
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Im staying neutral just adding info hear.
I do know a retired couple that have a 5ver, don't know the specs, and pull it from northern MN to TX for the winter with a half ton ford.
Talked to a guy just yesterday, that was asking about my 2015 dodge ram 2500 cummins. He happens to have a friend with the same truck, but with the 6.4 hemi. Sais he gets a soled 9-10mph empty or towing.
Its nice to talk to people that do/did it, instead of ones that do an internet search and post a comment. YES, flat towing all day long, mountains are a different animal.
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Old 07-27-2020, 08:34 AM   #7
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Most, if not all 1/2 ton trucks come with “P” rated tires. I would recommend at the very least upgrading to “LT” tires if you go that route.
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If you want to tow that 5th wheel these are the two most muscled half ton trucks available.

1. Ford F-150 with the HDPP package and towing package. Thicker frame, LT tires, Tow mirrors, longer wheelbase, and payload around 2,500 lbs.

2. Nissan Titan XD - thicker frame, longer wheelbase, tow mirrors, LT tires. Payload around 2,500lbs, gooseneck prep package standard.

The 2020 Nissan Titan XD has all the safety equipment standard which is nice. The truck was refreshed for the 2020 MY.

My gasoline powered 2017 F-250 2wd with locking rear diff. has a payload of 3,497 lbs. A gasoline Ram 2500 will have a payload of about the same 3,300lbs.
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Welcome to this forum. Make sure you measure your overhang height on your half ton towable trailer. Could be it won't fit a 3/4 ton truck and allow 6 inches of bedrail clearance. Your light pin weight won't deliver much truck squat with the Super Duty trucks. It would be a shame to have to start lifting a new trailer from the outset.

My trailer weighs 10,000# ready for travel and it doesn't seem very light to me; there is still 5 tons back there. If your trailer fits, I would opt for the heavier truck.
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Old 07-27-2020, 09:12 AM   #10
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Hi ! Welcome to IRV2! We're sure glad you joined us!

I would encourage you to think ahead. The 150 may be OK for now, but what happens if you get the itch for a larger 5er in two or three years? When that happens then you're faced with getting another truck as well. If the budget will allow I would get an F250 diesel. JMHO

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Old 07-27-2020, 09:13 AM   #11
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That F150 you're thinking of is a reg cab 2wd stripper model.
You need to look at Max Tow F150's that have door sticker payload capacities of 1900-2000 lbs.
Couple things to consider are what types of camping are you doing.
Are you going to just do power pole camping and eat out most of the time and not take much with you?
Or are you going to get fully immersed in 5th wheel camping and take long trips packing all kinds of stuff?
If you're power pole camping then you can squeez by with a 1900-2000 lb CCC F150. If not then you need to step up to a 3/4 ton gas.
FWIW we had a 28' 5th wheel with dry weights almost exactly what yours were.
We loaded quite a bit of stuff in it and had an 1800 lb pin weight.
IMO you really need a 3/4 ton gas truck or 1 ton if going diesel.
Those so called "1/2 ton rowable" 5th wheels never really pan out unless you get a special order 1/2 ton. 99% of the time you won't find those F150's on a lot.
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Old 07-27-2020, 09:29 AM   #12
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You will be much happier towing if you have "enough" truck.

At least, 3/4 ton, pick your favorite brand, diesel preferred.
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Old 07-27-2020, 03:16 PM   #13
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Thanks very much everyone.
Looks like a f250, Im going to take a peak at the Titan.
How about that 7.3 gas coming out in Ford?
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The Nissan you want to take a peak at is the Titan XD. Nissan stated using a 9 speed transmission in the 2020 MY. Prior to 2020 they used a 7 speed transmission.
I just test drove the little Titan and will say it felt powerful with a v8 5.6 litre engine.

The Ford 7.3 v8 Godzilla engine is out and is now showing up on dealer lots. This engine comes with a 10 speed transmission. If you get the other gas engine, the 6.2 Boss, it comes with a 6 speed transmission.

I test drove a 2020 F-250 diesel 10 speed and wow the power. I had a 2012 diesel and I could feel the extra power. Ford lightened the steering in the 2020 which makes this truck very easy to drive.

More speeds allows the engine to stay in a more powerful RPM range so the engine feels stonger.

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