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Old 07-19-2020, 06:49 AM   #1
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We are upgrading from our travel trailer to a 5th wheel. Not familiar with 5th wheel hitch's, I have been reading a slider is better for short beds and making 90 turns . I really would rather have a fixed 5th wheel hitch. I don't think 90 degrees turns are a regular occurrence. Looking at a B&W companion for my 2020 GMC 3500 Denali.
Any thoughts are appreciated.
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Here is a YouTuber I kinda like. He was using a gooseneck adaptor that in this video he is updating from a gen 1 to a gen 2. Also there is another YouTuber JB Reviews that uses a gooseneck adaptor.

https://youtu.be/Xcqh_thTwbk
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Old 07-19-2020, 07:20 AM   #3
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Here is JB Reviews video.

No one really wants that big ole 5th wheel hitch in their truck. I had one of those and it was heavy, and clumsy to get it out of the truck. Took two people.

Anyway - here is the JB Review.

https://youtu.be/eSRufkpCjmE
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Old 07-19-2020, 07:28 AM   #4
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We are upgrading from our travel trailer to a 5th wheel. Not familiar with 5th wheel hitch's, I have been reading a slider is better for short beds and making 90 turns . I really would rather have a fixed 5th wheel hitch. I don't think 90 degrees turns are a regular occurrence. Looking at a B&W companion for my 2020 GMC 3500 Denali.
Any thoughts are appreciated.

My first camper is a 5th wheel. I had a 2013 RAM 2500 diesel, 6'6" bed,that pulled it just fine, with an autoslider hitch. I am glad I did that.


Newer 5th wheel trailers, in theory, have a nose that is supposedly shaped to avoid collisions with the rear window. I did not test that.



I had to make a few tight turns and was grateful I was able to do so, to get in/out ofgas stations, or into a tight camping spot. 90 degree turns should be avoided, but sometimes were needed.



One rear window glass replacement will negate the cost difference between a slider and a non slider hitch. I do not know how the Anderson Ultimate hitch would help the short bed situation.


I now have a long bed RAM 3500. With a fixed hitch.
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I failed to mention I had my 5th wheel in some odd predicaments that I was always able to get out of. Worse case was I unhooked, repositioned the truck and rehooked and got out of that predicament.

A 5th wheel is easy to back up I think. That is when you need to be careful.

I see advertisments for 88 degree turns. To me that is enough. Now I see rotating pin boxes that help if you have a short bed truck...Reese Torque Flex or something like that.
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I have been reading a slider is better for short beds and making 90 turns . I really would rather have a fixed 5th wheel hitch. I don't think 90 degrees turns are a regular occurrence.
You'll never need a slider hitch (or extended pin box on the trailer) as long as you are going forward. But put that puppy in reverse to back into a spot and you can have a WHAM! in a heartbeat.

So here's what I would do in your case: Install the B&W Companion, then pull the trailer to a big empty parking lot without using reverse. Then with a helper watching closely, very slowly back into a jackknife. Have the helper yell STOP! when the clearance between cab and trailer is down to about an inch.

Notice the angle of trailer to truck when you are at max angle. Then decide if that is enough angle for your intended use. If it's not enough angle, then you can replace the pin box on the trailer with an extended pin box, such as a Reese Sidewinder. https://www.reeseprod.com/products/p...bYeVruoqL1Aay3

If you don't want to spend the money for a Sidewinder pin box, then just don't park in a campground that doesn't have "pull thru" parking spots available. (That's why the pull-thru parking spots are usually the first to fill up on holiday weekends.)
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I have a B&W Companion in my 2017 Ford F250. Bed is 6'9". No issues with backing into campsites,,,,,so far.

https://www.amazon.com/Companion-5th.../dp/B00KO77C5A

Exactly what I paid for hitch and installation at Discount Hitch in Arlington, TX. They did not recommend a slider since my bed had a little extra length than the "standard" short bed.
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Old 07-19-2020, 09:07 AM   #8
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I used a Companion Slider in my Ram with the 6'-4" bed. I was reading a lot on the Reese Goosebox and found a used one at a good price and bought it. I swapped my 5th wheel pin for the Goosebox and have no regrets. I have the B&W Turnover ball and use their 4" offset ball and I can get a pretty tight turn with this setup. Two things I like most about the Goosebox is the air cushioned ride and my truck bed is empty except for the ball.

Also, as far as 90 degree turns, bumper pull campers can't do a 90 degree turn and they use the same campsites.
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Old 07-19-2020, 07:04 PM   #9
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I have an Andersen Ultimate in my short bed F250, no issues, great hitch.
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Old 07-20-2020, 05:10 AM   #10
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I've been using b&w companions since 2005 with short box trucks. It is a heavy hitch but 1 guy can handle putting it in and out of a truck. For those who find it too heavy as a single unit, it can easily be split into two pieces. I've never been afraid to back my trailer anywhere nor have I ever found a spot I couldn't easily back into but if you are not comfortable backing up I'd recommend you get an auto slider or like someone else mentioned get the B&W Companion and a Reese Sidewinder pin box.
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We have the Curt slider, which works great and has come in handy a few times, but is heavy! If I had to do it again I would get a Sidewinder ...
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I went from tt to fifth wheel last fall. I have a 1 ton long wheel base F350.
I chose the B and W companion hitch. It is a 2 piece unit, about 75 and 45 lbs. each.
Mine mounts into the factory pucks. Maybe takes 3 minutes to remove and 5 to put back in when separated.
Quick and easy to hook up, and that was nice as a beginner!
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My PullRite auto slider gave me the options to turn farther and not be concerned about it. And I did not have to stop to manually slide it back. But I have an older 2008 5th wheel toyhauler, and had 2013 RAM 2500 with a 6'6" box.

This was my first 5th wheel. I did not have a lot of trailer experience then. SO I wanted to to what I could to remove possible issues. I was happy with my choices.
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Thanks , I am 99% sure on the Reese Goosebox, seems best way to go and a free up bed space. Are you still enjoying the Goosebox and any lessons learned?
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