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Old 01-04-2018, 09:40 PM   #1
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Non-Comm. Class A test

Has anyone in NorCal taken the driving/safety test at the West Sacramento DMV office. I have my permit but need to do the driving test with the fifth wheel.
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Has anyone in NorCal taken the driving/safety test at the West Sacramento DMV office. I have my permit but need to do the driving test with the fifth wheel.
I have not. But wondering why you need one?
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Non-Comm. Class A test

My fifth wheel is over 15k GVWR, it's the law in CA!
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Hi Jim
I Live here in Roseville, and saw a fifthweel at the new DMV Office off Washington Blvd. Looked like he was there to do a road test. Here’s their address
7200 Galilee rd
Roseville ca 95678 Phone 800-777-0133

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Thats where we started our paperwork after buying it in AZ. Took awhile for the dealer to send title to the lien holder and then they sent it to DMV. He might have been registering it there. You can only do the driving test in W Sac or Yuba City!
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Thats where we started our paperwork after buying it in AZ. Took awhile for the dealer to send title to the lien holder and then they sent it to DMV. He might have been registering it there. You can only do the driving test in W Sac or Yuba City!
I thought he was doing a drive test because he was in line like he was waiting his turn. Maybe they had to inspect it or something.
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Old 01-07-2018, 10:55 AM   #7
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My fifth wheel is over 15k GVWR, it's the law in CA!
I had a commercial license in Ca. for 28 years, When I had a medical issue and could not keep a commercial license anymore (4 years ago), I asked the DMV clerk about a non-commercial license. She said that there was no law in Ca. requiring a class A for Rv's. I guess that has changed? If so there are thousands of people breaking the law in Ca.
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Weredoinit-In Ca, you need a non C class A for towing >15,000 gvw OR you need a non C class B for motorhome >40' length.

Both need a medical form signed by a Dr every 2 years.
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The rules for California on trailer towing is:

Anything 10K pounds or more (TT or 5th), you need a non-commercial class A. Except for a 5th wheel that is over 10K pounds, but less than 15K pounds, you can get a class C license with the "restricted 41" endorsement. That endorsement (I have it), is just a written test at the DMV. Anything over the 15K pounds with a 5th wheel is the non-commercial class A.

Like said above, anything over 45' class A RV requires a non-commercial class B.

Over 26K pounds truck or truck/trailer combo applies like any state.

The non-commercial class A does need a medical form self filled out and submitted every two years, but it does not need to be signed by your doctor. Only the name of the doctor is needed on the form. Although if some of the questions on the form are answered "yes", the state may contact your doctor to further investigate.

And yes, most Californians towing trailers over 10K pounds are doing it "illegally". Not sure why California won't get on the ball and align the towing requirements with almost all the other states.

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Reading the fine print: DMV says

A Noncommercial Class B license and endorsement is required if you operate:

A housecar over 40 feet but not over 45 feet.

[I]Exemptions: Holders of a commercial Class A or B license, a noncommercial Class A license, and all fire fighter license classes.

Can I operate a housecar over 40' if I have a non-commercial Class A license???

One reason this is important is that, as Wiley says, the Non Comm Class A does not require a physican signature on the medical form (546A), just the self-reporting medical form (546).

what does this 'Exemption' mean???
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Reading the fine print: DMV says

A Noncommercial Class B license and endorsement is required if you operate:

A housecar over 40 feet but not over 45 feet.

[I]Exemptions: Holders of a commercial Class A or B license, a noncommercial Class A license, and all fire fighter license classes.

Can I operate a housecar over 40' if I have a non-commercial Class A license???

One reason this is important is that, as Wiley says, the Non Comm Class A does not require a physican signature on the medical form (546A), just the self-reporting medical form (546).

what does this 'Exemption' mean???
Yes, you can.

Here is the web site of what each license is for. https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/de..._htm/lic_chart

Just be prepared to take the written test for each and every license you have already, unless you just took a license test within the last 12 months. When I took the test for my 5th wheel exemption, I was surprised that I had to also take the written for my class "C" and "M" (motorcycle), which I had for years.

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Wiley, I'm confounded by this 'exemption'. Why did they create a seperate Non C Class B licence AND medical form when, according to the 'exception', the Class A will do?

Scratching my head over this one!

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Thanks for the link to the table. It plainly says that Non C Class A may operate a motorhome over 40'. So I can save some cash as the Dr doesn't have to sign my medical! Whoopee!!

So now I just have to study up for the Non C Class A. Simple enough!
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I thought he was doing a drive test because he was in line like he was waiting his turn. Maybe they had to inspect it or something.

Good luck safe travels


He was probably having an inspection for registration. I had to do the same thing there. They look at the sticker and measure the length. Not once did they mention I needed a different license!
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