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Old 09-02-2021, 04:26 AM   #1
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Pickup Truck prices

I currently own a 20 travel trailer that I pull with a twenty year old Ram 1500 regular cab. Its great for the local camping trips we take but were going to be fully retired in about one year and have been researching a small fifth wheel and a new pickup to pull it. We would need at least a F250 to handle the pin weight of the fiver.
Im shocked how expensive new and later model used pickups are. Im not dumb, I understand the state of the economy and why costs are where theyre at, Im just bummed about it. Seems well need to bring a lot more cash to the table if we decide to go the fifth wheel option.
I guess I wonder how folks can afford such expensive tow vehicles.
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Old 09-02-2021, 05:39 AM   #2
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My tow rig is 22 year old Dodge 3500 Cummins with a 5 spd. I'm into it with upgrades for 20k. Pulls my toys great.Click image for larger version

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Old 09-02-2021, 05:48 AM   #3
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Do yourself a favor and don't buy a 3/4 ton. You never know what your future deeds/desires will be and a 3/4 just isn't enough truck for the pin weight of larger fifth wheels. Look for and buy a one ton diesel.
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Old 09-02-2021, 05:54 AM   #4
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Look at the lower trim levels. Those extra "bells and whistles" add a LOT to the price. I bought my 2017 F250 XL with the STX package (which upgrades it a lot from the "work truck" look) for literally half the price of the higher trim levels.
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Old 09-02-2021, 06:03 AM   #5
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Car and truck prices are going to get much higher. One reason is that the government wants to force people into buying electric vehicles. EVs are much more expensive to produce and the only way to make them competitive is to artificially drive up the prices of internal combustion engine cars. This is being done through the CAFE (Corporate Average Fuel Economy) mandate. If the average fuel economy of cars sold is less than 52 mpg the manufacturer will have to either pay a fine or purchase CAFE credits from a company like Tesla that makes only EVs. Tesla, by the way, has never made money selling cars. It makes its money by selling CAFE credits to manufacturers of ICE vehicles.
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Old 09-02-2021, 06:46 AM   #6
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Truck prices have been insane for many years now... they have become fashion statements instead of the work tool they were originally intended to be.

Same camp as @ramn4ver, own a 1993 F350 7.3 IDI Turbo Diesel. Short of getting totaled in an accident, I likely will never by a newer truck. Cheaper to keep and completely overhaul what I already have.

When the time comes, new engine is about $5k, new trans around $2.5k. Much cheaper than $60+k for a new diesel.

The trick is to keep up with the maintenace and care. Truck is always covered when not in use and undercoated annually with Fluid Film. I've done quit a bit over the years, front end rebuilt with poly bushings, replaced all the sagging cab mounts with poly bushings, new clutch/pressure plate/flywheel... are the bigger items.

Best part, completely paid for, no monthly payment approaching the cost of my mortgage. Just 4 months of payments on a new diesel would pay for a new engine in my truck.Click image for larger version

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Old 09-02-2021, 08:49 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by MtCamper View Post
Do yourself a favor and don't buy a 3/4 ton. You never know what your future deeds/desires will be and a 3/4 just isn't enough truck for the pin weight of larger fifth wheels. Look for and buy a one ton diesel.
Guy doesnt like current pricing now, and you're telling him to buy the most expensive truck..
Find the nicest old truck you can afford and fix it to your needs.
You will be farther ahead without the extra mortgage.. take that monthly payment and invest it into your used truck.
You might not have the latest bells and whistles but all they do is complicate and increase costs.
Just my penny thought..
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Old 09-02-2021, 08:57 AM   #8
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IMO you'd better off waiting till you retire and hope that the chip shortage and shipping problems are better resolved.
No use buying now when supply is short and prices are almost non negotiable.

As others have said if you're upgrading your trailer too then go 1 ton.
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Old 09-02-2021, 09:04 AM   #9
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I started with a 1 ton 2013 Ram truck.

When it started having check engine light I learned how Ram (likely others too) had fewer diesel mechanics and would basically throw parts at it at my expense to resolve the issue.

I took the truck back, fixed it myself ($0 in parts), then got a new truck to avoid becoming a mechanic in my retirement.
I wanted to travel more than work on the truck.

Yes, I paid lots extra for a new truck but now I'm not always worried about where we might be when the truck pukes.
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Old 09-02-2021, 09:10 AM   #10
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It's probably not a bad idea to get rid of your truck once the emissions warranty expires, usually after 8 years.
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Old 09-02-2021, 10:02 AM   #11
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I'm with Ramn4ver.

I took my time and just kept looking and eventually found a 2004 Dodge/Cummins dually with the 6 speed manual and very low miles. Dependable as can be - none of the pollution control crap on it - and will pull anything I can hook to it. I will keep that truck until I'm too old to drive. So don't get in a hurry and keep your eyes open for something similar. New vehicle prices are insane right now.
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Old 09-02-2021, 10:24 AM   #12
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Yep. Things are expensive. Cars, trucks, RV’s, food, fuel, campgrounds, you name it. Moaning about it won’t change a thing. Find a setup that fits your budget and enjoy it.
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Look for a nice used 1 ton single rear wheel diesel....preferably one that is preDEF...2010 or older Ram. The Ford trucks prior to 2011 used the 6.4 L or the 6.0L and were a disaster for most people. A 6.0L Ford that has been properly "bullet Proofed" is fine.

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Here is a new truck that is probably the most bang for the buck. 2022 Chevy gasoline powered 2500 with the heavier GVWR.
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