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tiger63 · 04-22-2006, 05:40 AM

I have a question for which I need help.

The pin weights for various trailers tend to excede a pick-ups load rating.

If a pin weight is 1000 lbs does that equal maximum for a 1/2 ton truck.

If a pin weight is 1500 lbs does that equal maximum for a 3/4 ton truck.

If a pin weight is 2000 lbs does that equal maximum for a 1 ton truck.

Asking because so many 5'vers show pin weights above 2000 lbs, does this mean an even larger truck is required.

Thanks for the in-put!

tiger63 · 04-22-2006, 05:40 AM

I have a question for which I need help.

The pin weights for various trailers tend to excede a pick-ups load rating.

If a pin weight is 1000 lbs does that equal maximum for a 1/2 ton truck.

If a pin weight is 1500 lbs does that equal maximum for a 3/4 ton truck.

If a pin weight is 2000 lbs does that equal maximum for a 1 ton truck.

Asking because so many 5'vers show pin weights above 2000 lbs, does this mean an even larger truck is required.

Thanks for the in-put!

Ken Lenger · 04-22-2006, 05:52 AM

The "ton" rating of a truck doesn't tell you much about it's actual load capacity. About the only useful information you can get from the "ton" rating is that a 3/4 will have a higher GVWR than a 1/2 ton, and a 1 ton will have a GVWR that a 3/4 ton. GVWR is the gross vehicle weight rating, which is the maximum weight of the truck fully loaded, including hitch weight from the trailer. This weight does not include the weight of the trailer on the trailer axles. How much you can actually load on the truck is the difference between it's empty weight and the GVWR. Using my Dodge 1 ton SRW as an example, all 3500 SRW models have a GVWR or 9900 lbs. How much you can actually load on the truck depends on how much the truck weighs empty, and that varies all over the place depending on how it is equipped. My truck is a quad cab model, diesel, 4WD, with the 6 speed transmission, and is the heaviest configuration available. A 1 ton SRW regular cab with an automatic transmission and 2WD would weigh about 1000 lbs less than my truck, but still has the same GVWR, so that truck would actually have a load capacity of 1000 lbs more than my truck. My useful load is around 2600 lbs. The 2nd truck I spec'd here would have a useful load of about 3600 lbs, but they are both 1 ton trucks with the stame GVWR. For more info on RV towing weights, see my web page at http://www.klenger.net/arctic-fox/weight/index.html

TXiceman · 04-22-2006, 10:41 AM

To add to what Ken has said, I have a F350, 1 ton dually (DRW) with a GVWR of 11,500#. The loaded weight of the truck, ready to roll is right at 8000#. This gives me a useful payload capacity of 3500# to haul whatever or for a maximum pin weight.

Ken

Dagwood · 04-23-2006, 06:48 PM

My truck weighs 7000 lbs ready to roll and has a gvwr of 9000 lbs so I have to be very carefull with my weights. I also use this as a method to keep the dw from collecting rocks as she loves to do . Maybe now I can justify 3500.

Dagwood · 04-23-2006, 06:52 PM

Sorry but I see I left off the 2500 off my sig. oh well I thought I was perfect.

Ray,IN · 04-24-2006, 06:42 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by TXiceman:
To add to what Ken has said, I have a F350, 1 ton dually (DRW) with a GVWR of 11,500#. The loaded weight of the truck, ready to roll is right at 8000#. This gives me a useful payload capacity of 3500# to haul whatever or for a maximum pin weight.[QUOTE]

And that 3,500# must be distributed as to not overload one axle.

TXiceman · 04-25-2006, 08:15 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">And that 3,500# must be distributed as to not overload one axle. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ray, distributing the load so as to not over load either axle goes without saying in my book.

Ken

lincster · 05-02-2006, 11:00 AM

No, not at all.
My truck has a GVWR of 13000lbs.
My truck weighs 8300lbs full of fuel, with 5er hitch and no passengers.
So, figure I have 500lbs in passengers.
13000-8300-500=4200lbs available for pin weight before I go over my GVWR of the truck.
You also have to look at GAWR and tire ratings, but with a dually that is not a problem.

powerboatr · 05-03-2006, 04:01 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by lincster:
No, not at all.
My truck has a GVWR of 13000lbs.
My truck weighs 8300lbs full of fuel, with 5er hitch and no passengers.
So, figure I have 500lbs in passengers.
13000-8300-500=4200lbs available for pin weight before I go over my GVWR of the truck.
You also have to look at GAWR and tire ratings, but with a dually that is not a problem. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

And I thought my truck was heavy