Question about towing.

[HR2004]

We tried it towing a KZ sportsman toy hauler. 37 ft.. towed from central Missouri to Tucson for the winter. Very seldom were we in overdrive, usually got about 5mpg. The week after we got to Tucson we had a Ford diesel.. huge difference. We eventually traded it all for our coach.

[sonofcy]

Originally Posted by chuff31

Thank you everyone. The payload listed on my truck is 2782. Hitch weight of the camper is 1980. If I figure weight of individuals and other items I run real close to the 2782 but don't go over. The GVW of the 5th wheel is 13,971 and according to truck specs the max towing is 14,300. Does any of that help or change your thoughts? Thanks in advance
Cory

Like max tow, pin weight from the RV companies is a figment of their imagination. If your RV GVWR is 13,971 and pin weight is typically 22% you need a payload of 3,074 just for the RV. Your payload though is prior to deducting everything you put in the truck since it left the factory including a full tank of fuel, floor mats, everything. You aren't even close to safe with this combination. An RV of 10,000 lbs GVWR is what you need to be looking at. I weighed mine and with two average adults our ready to camp weight is 800+lbs more than the door sticker allows. If you were similar then 2,000 lbs left for pin weight and 20% (a little light) would put you at 10,000 lbs GVWR.

[Jshopes81]

Originally Posted by frizfreleng

Based on personal experience you are probably going to need "a bigger Johnson"! I have a 29' Keystone Cougar. Dry weight is over 6k lbs. Last trip in 2019 it was pulled by a Ford 6.0L diesel. Did fine on flat or gently rolling country. Crossing over, back and through the mountains, Georgia to Pennsylvania I often found myself in the truck lane maxing out at 20 mph. For me towing has always been spelled "diesel".

Your 6.0 could only do 20 pulling a 29ft couger? Something isnt right. I can get mine to 35 at 3/4 throttle on 8% from a stop pulling my 17k fuzion.

[beedub]

A 3/4 ton truck of any manufacture can pull just about anything. The payload is NOT on the door jam but in your manual and payload is close to that of a dually so go ahead. Stay away from half tons. The gas engine will not be as powerful or economical as a deisel but it can still do the job with no problem. If your rig has Chinese tires, pull them off and buy some Goodyear or Hancock trailer tires. Their weights are accurate vs pie in the sky Chinese numbers plus the damage they cause when they fly apart.
Good Luck and have fun with your new 5th wheel.

[sonofcy]

Originally Posted by beedub

A 3/4 ton truck of any manufacture can pull just about anything. The payload is NOT on the door jam but in your manual and payload is close to that of a dually so go ahead. Stay away from half tons. The gas engine will not be as powerful or economical as a deisel but it can still do the job with no problem. If your rig has Chinese tires, pull them off and buy some Goodyear or Hancock trailer tires. Their weights are accurate vs pie in the sky Chinese numbers plus the damage they cause when they fly apart.
Good Luck and have fun with your new 5th wheel.

4 tires carry twice as much payload as two tires. The payload capacity in the manual is for one model usually very stripped while the doorpost is what it actually was at the factory door. BTW, it's Hankook not Hancock. it's the 7th largest tire manufacturer and based in Asia (SK).

[Dave Pelletier]

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[Dave Pelletier]

Yep. While the physical differences between a 3/4 ton and 1 ton SRW are relatively minor, a dually is an entirely different thing (both on paper and in real conditions) I currently own 3/4 ton, 1 ton SRW and dually diesels and tow with all three regularly

[xc-mark]

Originally Posted by beedub

A 3/4 ton truck of any manufacture can pull just about anything. The payload is NOT on the door jam but in your manual and payload is close to that of a dually so go ahead. Stay away from half tons. The gas engine will not be as powerful or economical as a deisel but it can still do the job with no problem. If your rig has Chinese tires, pull them off and buy some Goodyear or Hancock trailer tires. Their weights are accurate vs pie in the sky Chinese numbers plus the damage they cause when they fly apart.
Good Luck and have fun with your new 5th wheel.

Typical payload for a GM 1ton duelie is 5600lb for a diesel crew cab 4x4. Typical 3/4 ton 3600lbs.

Keep in mind this is not included any hitch, dog, beer , fire wood, wife and kids. The divers door sticker is the only real info relative to your truck NOT the owners manual. The DOT will only look at door stickers to determine what you can haul.

[tuffr2]

xc - I think a GM 2500 series truck diesel will have a 3,000lb or less payload. The GM 2500 HD gas truck will have the payload of 3,600 lbs.

Dually trucks will have a rear axle weight capacity of close to 10,000lbs. A SRW 3500 series truck will have a rear axle capacity of around 7,000lb - 7,300lb capacity.

[onechaddude]

Originally Posted by tuffr2

xc - I think a GM 2500 series truck diesel will have a 3,000lb or less payload. The GM 2500 HD gas truck will have the payload of 3,600 lbs.

Dually trucks will have a rear axle weight capacity of close to 10,000lbs. A SRW 3500 series truck will have a rear axle capacity of around 7,000lb - 7,300lb capacity.

My 2020 GMC Denali 2500 with the D/A diesel has something right at 3400# cargo capacity. It has pretty much every available option. I had a 2018 Chevy D/A high country and payload on it was just over 1900#. The difference is the new 2020 trucks the GVW went to 11,350# versus 10,000# for older ones. Couldn't take the look of the new Chevy, had to get a GMC

Chad

[tuffr2]

That is impressive for a 2500 diesel. GM did a good job beefing up their 2020 trucks. I have seen a 2020 GM 2500HD truck that had a 2,000lb weight capacity bumper pull hitch. To me that is impressive as my 2017 F-250 only had a 1,500lb weight capacity bumper pull hitch.

[onechaddude]

Originally Posted by tuffr2

That is impressive for a 2500 diesel. GM did a good job beefing up their 2020 trucks. I have seen a 2020 GM 2500HD truck that had a 2,000lb weight capacity bumper pull hitch. To me that is impressive as my 2017 F-250 only had a 1,500lb weight capacity bumper pull hitch.

tuffr2, looked today to make sure of what I had stated. I guess my memory isn't as good as it used to be. My payload is 3042#. Mine does have the sunroof and factory pucks so sill a pretty good payload for 3/4 ton. Sorry for incorrect figure.

Chad

[tuffr2]

Chad - thanks, anything over 3,000lbs for a diesel GM 2500 is really good.

Again the 2020 GM trucks are impressive as far as capabilities go (payload, towing, new frame, what looks to me to be a very good integrated bumper pull hitch).