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Old 06-29-2020, 07:03 AM   #1
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Does anyone have experience / knowledge of how well this truck would tow? I currently pull a 32' 7,900 gross weight trailer with my 07 F150 it currently has 254,000 miles. It tows it surprisingly well for a 1/2 ton, the issue is my truck is getting up there in mileage and needs to be replaced. This is a company truck and I don't really need a diesel for my job so I want to stick with gas. The 2500 Ram seems like it would fit my needs. Your insight would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 06-29-2020, 07:52 AM   #2
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I had a diesel dually and wanted a new truck. After looking at GM, Ram and Ford I bought a new 2017 F-250 6.2 Boss engine which is gas powered. I like the truck a lot.

If you are using a 2007 F-150 with the doggy 5.4 litre engine, you will like any newer truck. I test drove a new 2007 F-150 5.4 Triton engine and thought the truck makes more noise than acceleration. I did not buy that truck. I did however buy a 2011 F-150 with the powerful 5.0 litre Coyote engine.

You owe it to yourself to go test drive a F-150 with the 3.5 Eco-Boost engine just to see what they are about. And while you are at the Ford dealer test drive the F-150 with the 5.0 V8 Coyote engine.

A truck I would recommend would be a 2017 or newer F-250 with the 6.2 Boss gasoline engine. That truck is better than the Ram 5.7 hemi and just as powerful as the Ram 6.4 hemi.

If you are thinking new 2020 truck, then you need to look at the GM 2500 with their new 6.6 litre gas engine or Ford with their new 7.3 Godzilla gas engine coupled with a 10 speed transmission. Or Ram with the 6.4 hemi and 8 speed transmission. The GM gas truck will have a 6 speed transmission.
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Old 06-29-2020, 07:59 AM   #3
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I tow a 9300 lb +/- TT with a 2018 Ram 2500, 6.4 with 4.10 gears. 90% of the time it does a good job.
My main issue is my years tranny. It's got the wrong gear spacing for a gas truck. It's perfectly fine when not towing. Towing it just needs better spacing.
Power wise it does fine. I live in Oregon and travel over a lot of hills and mtns. I only need more power on the steepest of steepest grades.
The new 2019+ Rams have an 8sp tranny which should make it more enjoyable on steeper sections.
Towing 2000 lbs less than me would also be a plus.
Have you looked at the new Fords with the 7.3 gasser? More power and a 10sp.
Also why not a newer F150 EB 3.5? It will pull your TT like a freight train.
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I tow a 9300 lb +/- TT with a 2018 Ram 2500, 6.4 with 4.10 gears. 90% of the time it does a good job.
My main issue is my years tranny. It's got the wrong gear spacing for a gas truck. It's perfectly fine when not towing. Towing it just needs better spacing.
Power wise it does fine. I live in Oregon and travel over a lot of hills and mtns. I only need more power on the steepest of steepest grades.
The new 2019+ Rams have an 8sp tranny which should make it more enjoyable on steeper sections.
Towing 2000 lbs less than me would also be a plus.
Have you looked at the new Fords with the 7.3 gasser? More power and a 10sp.
Also why not a newer F150 EB 3.5? It will pull your TT like a freight train.
Thanks for the feedback. A ford 3.5 EB is on the radar, I just like the 3/4 truck idea due to the fact my trailer is 32'. I am and always have been a Ford guy, but the F250 vs the 2500 typically shows an $8,000 difference comparably equipped. My F150 has been great, I got it brand new and have towed my Jeep and my TT's all over and haven't had a bit of trouble for 254,000 miles. Again, I just like the idea of bumping up to a 3/4 truck.
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If you say your F-150 with the 5.4 litre Triton was great you would love any new truck. And because you used this truck to tow your 32' trailer and since the 2015 F-150 and newer are bigger than your 2007 F-150 (longer wheelbase) which helps control at travel trailer I am thinking you could use another bigger F-150 3.5 Eco-Boost to tow your trailer.

You are also kinda like me. I really liked a 2011 F-150 5.0 litre (No Problems) so I have stuck with Fords. As I got bigger travel trailers I looked at all the trucks and ended up with a 2017 F-250.

A few more points:

If I was a GM guy I really like the 2019 GM 1500 series truck with the 6.2 litre engine that was used in the old Corvette. The occupant/payload of these trucks are crazy high, 1,800 to 2,100 lbs. That powerful engine is close to the power of the Ford 3.5 Eco-Boost. Also these 1500 series trucks are huge, almost as big as my 2017 F-250.

The 2017 F-250 with the 6.2 Boss engine is a very reliable vehicle.

I would not buy a Ford SD (Super Duty) older than the much better redesigned 2017 with a high strength steel fully boxed frame. Prior to 2017 the Ford SD had a flexy frame. My 2017 feels rock solid. The wheelbase on my 2017 F-250 short bed is 160".

2019 Ram and the 2020 GM 2500 series trucks are just as solid feeling with similar wheelbases.

I am waiting to see TFL Trucks on YouTube test all the new gas trucks. On the next few days TFL will have the milage for a 2020 Ram 6.4 Hemi gas engine with the 8 speed transmission. Then they do all their testing in Colorado towing down then up the mountain on Route 70. I think
11,000 feet elevation to 8,000 feet and back. They time the 8 mile climb going up and the count the brake applications going down. One of their guys is currently driving the Ram 2500 from Michigan to Colorado. I expect this test to be posted to YouTube soon.

So in the next few weeks you will have all you need to know about the Ram 2500 6.4 Hemi.

I think they tested the Ford with the 7.3 and 10 speed already and maybe the GM truck also.
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I found this video that is kinda worth watching. The missing truck is the 2020 Ram 6.4 Hemi with an 8 speed. That will be coming up soon(ish).
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I have an 18 Ram 2500. The power and stability are excellent when towing. I wish it had a larger gas tank.
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I found this video that is kinda worth watching. The missing truck is the 2020 Ram 6.4 Hemi with an 8 speed. That will be coming up soon(ish).
The Chevy was quite a bit slower, but some things to keep in mind:

-Chevy had better MPG
-Chevy has a 3.73 rear end, this Ford had a 4.30. They couldn't use the 3.73 equipped Ford that they bought because the tow rating wasn't high enough.

I think Chevy really handicapped itself sticking with the same transmission and a taller geared rear end than the generation before.

However, they are towing quite a bit more than most of our travel trailers actually weigh.
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I found this video that is kinda worth watching. The missing truck is the 2020 Ram 6.4 Hemi with an 8 speed. That will be coming up soon(ish).
I'll take a look. Thanks for the link!
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The 6.4 Hemi is a great engine in the HD trucks and would easily pull that trailer anywhere you want it. Definitely go for the newer 8spd tranny as the 6spd is a dog. I pull an 11,000# 5th wheel with the 6spd and get by but I sure would like the 8. As pointed out, the gear spacing in the 6 is awful.
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I agree with AJE - the 2020 Chevy was at a disadvantage. 3:73 gears are what I think you would want. I had a truck with 4:30 gears which was only happy towing. Driving solo on the highway was painful since the truck did not like 75 mph.

I will say this, IMHO the 2020 GM 2500/3500 gas trucks are better than the 2017-2019 Ford 250/350 gas trucks.

What you will find is a super refined quiet smooth running truck.

If you decide to go with an expensive diesel it would make towing absolutely a joy. Most of the upfront cost of a diesel is made up at the back end when you sell it.
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Another vote for the Ford 7.3L with the 10-speed and 4.33 ring gear. There is no replacement for displacement.
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I have an 18 Ram 2500. The power and stability are excellent when towing. I wish it had a larger gas tank.
Ain't that the truth. I see now you can option a 50G tank on long beds. That would be sweet.
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I agree with AJE - the 2020 Chevy was at a disadvantage. 3:73 gears are what I think you would want. I had a truck with 4:30 gears which was only happy towing. Driving solo on the highway was painful since the truck did not like 75 mph.

I will say this, IMHO the 2020 GM 2500/3500 gas trucks are better than the 2017-2019 Ford 250/350 gas trucks.

What you will find is a super refined quiet smooth running truck.

If you decide to go with an expensive diesel it would make towing absolutely a joy. Most of the upfront cost of a diesel is made up at the back end when you sell it.
Did GM ever align the steering wheel with the seat. Last I saw the steering wheel is offset about 1.5" to the right. Kinda awkward IMO.
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