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Old 03-29-2020, 07:46 PM   #1
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Ram diesel to GMC/Chevy diesel

Looking to see if any late model Ram to GMC/Chevy converts?
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If you are talking 2020 models I can understand why you like the GM trucks. I also like them.

But I would drive all the 2020's and really start from scratch. All the trucks have changed so much in the 2020 model year for Ford and GM and 2019 Model year for the Ram.

They have all upped their game with a combination of new frames, new engines, new transmissions and better driving dynamics.

I drove them all a few months ago. FWIW I think the Ford is a tiny bit better then the GM which is a tiny bit better than Ram. By better I mean the total package of power, steering, transmission shifting, ride, and smoothness.

In a nutshell the Ram has the best interior, GM has the best ride, Ford has the most power. But I will reiterate the difference between the trucks are tiny.
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That new inline 6 Duramax is intriguing...

(I've yet to meet an i6 that I didn't like)
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That new inline 6 Duramax is intriguing...

(I've yet to meet an i6 that I didn't like)
What?

I cant even put into words how much i hate the way an i6 behaves.
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Old 03-30-2020, 06:33 AM   #5
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I agree with Jshopes81 as I do not like the I6 either. The I6 lacks some of the smoothness that the V8 engines offer. When I think of I6 engines I do not think of refinement.
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I agree with Jshopes81 as I do not like the I6 either. The I6 lacks some of the smoothness that the V8 engines offer. When I think of I6 engines I do not think of refinement.
Unlike V engines inline engines have very good plane balance.

There is no reciprocating mass out of line with the engine block's centre of gravity.
Bob weights aren't necessary to counter these vibrations.

Crossplane V8s will have a rocking couple that causes the engine to shake left and right...

Exhaust note is boring and flatulent, I'll admit.
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The 2020 Duramax/10 speed combo is excellent if you are interested.
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Gone both ways, 2011 GMC, 2013 Dodge, 2016 Ram, 2018 GMC. The GMC trucks are smoother, quieter and have more power, the Dodge/Ram has better exhaust brake. I would own either one again.
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Gone both ways, 2011 GMC, 2013 Dodge, 2016 Ram, 2018 GMC. The GMC trucks are smoother, quieter and have more power, the Dodge/Ram has better exhaust brake. I would own either one again.
Did you happen to tow the same RV with each? How did MPG compare?
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Towed the same rv with the first 3 on the list and towed my enclosed car trailer with all 4. Mpg is basically the same towing 9-12 depending on conditions and the 18 GMC gets the best unloaded mileage of all 4 at 20mpg. The others were 17-18 mpg empty.
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Agree with Nick that you will get a wide range during trips. I found towing with the wind vs against the wind the biggest factor. If you ever see a 5th wheel being towed look at how much of the front of the 5th wheel hits the air.

I will reiterate the engines have changed. For example Ram since 2019 is now a Graphite Iron block plus a lot of new redesigned internal engine parts. Same for Ford, a lot of new internal engine redesigned parts. Ford has used a Graphie Iron block since 2011.

I think it would be fair to say 2019 Ram and 2020 Ford and GM are going to be a lot better with more transmission speeds.
I even see 'Diesel Efficient' fuel instead of Diesel #2. This fuel burns cleaner and provides up to 2% better mpg. That is .02 which is tiny but better than being a worse mph fuel. Also fewer regens with this new fuel. That will increase your mpg.

My point is that trucks are better than ever and you can not really compare a 2018 truck versus a 2020 truck as the 2020 will be a lot different.

Example - I have a redesigned very smooth driving 2017 F-250. I test drove the 2020 GM and Ford and both trucks drove nicer than my very good driving 2017. Ford lighted the steering which makes a huge difference plus added a bunch more power.

I had a 2012 Super Duty F-450 and that truck does not compare to the 2020 trucks.

I agree with jjack - the 2020 GM trucks are great. You can save a lot of time and energy and just buy a 2020 GM truck in your favorite color.
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Im on the fence for a new truck also. The last two have been Rams and have had no problems with them other than couple recalls. I've watched a couple videos of side by side testing of the Big 3 and all performed well. Ford has the ten speed tranny that gets the load moving and seems to be in the right gear all the time. Ram has best E-Brake and Gm the best ride. The videos rated the trucks in the following order..Ford, Ram, then GM. But said you couldnt go wrong with either one. Rumor has it (from the TFL guys) that there maybe an Allison in the Ram in the not to distance future, so I may have to wait.
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I read an online review/rating last year sometime comparing 2019 1 ton diesel trucks. Did some searching to try and find that review again, but not found.

Anyway, GMC came out on top of the 3. Ram second, Ford 3rd. None of the people doing the rating/review picked the GMC as the best, it won based on the accumulated points of the different test categories.

For what ever reason, the article peaked my curiosity on GMC's. Guess I will need to go out and test drive/tow one.
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Just an FYI - I test drove a 2019 Ram and 2019 Ford and liked my 2017 Ford as much. Then I test drove the refreshed Ford and Ram and redesigned GM and like the new Ford and GM better than my 2017.

I would set a budget and try to get a great deal on a 2020 Ford or GM.

The 2020 trucks are better than the 2018 trucks by a measurable amount.
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