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Old 10-10-2019, 06:47 AM   #43
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The truck is the Lariat with the value package. with 4.30 locking rear and optional 7.3 gas engine. Also have factory installed fifth wheel/ gooseneck hitch package. Right now there are no incentives. MSRP $60,000. Should receive in 12 to 15 weeks. Bad news is I will have to wait until spring to try pulling 5th wheel camper weighing in at 14.000 lbs.
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Old 10-10-2019, 07:42 AM   #44
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The truck is the Lariat with the value package. with 4.30 locking rear and optional 7.3 gas engine. Also have factory installed fifth wheel/ gooseneck hitch package. Right now there are no incentives. MSRP $60,000. Should receive in 12 to 15 weeks. Bad news is I will have to wait until spring to try pulling 5th wheel camper weighing in at 14.000 lbs.
Did you go 4x4 or 4x2?

I was just heading up stairs to work out rpm at 70 mph with the different gear ratio options.

Were they able to give you an idea of what the ideal cruise rpm should be for the new 7.3?

The good news about having to wait on towing until spring is that your ring & pinion will be well broken in.

When I talked to the dealer on Tuesday, the salesman went down a list of options that I would like, but didnít seem to have any packages listed.

I wish that Ford would put the 2020ís online so I can see what options the base models have so I can compare prices of a lesser model with options and a greater model without options.

Cameras that allow me to back out of a Blind parking spot and see if a car is coming is important to me.
Also cameras that let me see traffic beside and behind my trailer while driving is important to me.

Anyone have any pros/cons about the consoles and the vault?
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Old 10-10-2019, 08:41 AM   #45
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I much prefer a console verses a bench seat. Of course this occasionally bites me when family comes to visit - have to take two cars for 6 people.
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Old 10-10-2019, 09:33 AM   #46
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Vault? I prefer the flip up center armrest. 40-20-40 kina deal. You have the center armrest for storage when you need it but also a seat when you need it too. If its that giant center consol ford uses i wouldnt opt for that, my knees usually rub on center consoles amd ill get sore after too long.
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I'm 6'1 and I have zero knee rubbing issues. This is a full size truck, not a Miata LOL.

To each his own, but I shied away from trucks with the flip down, screams "Worktruck" to me.
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Vault? I prefer the flip up center armrest. 40-20-40 kina deal. You have the center armrest for storage when you need it but also a seat when you need it too. If its that giant center consol ford uses i wouldnt opt for that, my knees usually rub on center consoles amd ill get sore after too long.

Don't know if it's available for 2020, but 2019 had a locking vault option. Forget the exact price, but I think it was $200-$300
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Old 10-10-2019, 10:56 AM   #49
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I was able to crunch some rpm numbers for 2020 7.3 with 10 speed transmission.


Using LT275/65 x 18" which is 32.1" tall


1st gear at 4,000 rpm
3.55 ratio = 22.92 mph
3.73 ratio = 21.82 mph
4.30 ratio = 18.93 mph


10th gear @ 70 mph


3.55 = 1654 rpm
3.73 = 1737 rpm
4.30 = 2003 rpm


By the way, 3.73 is only available on F350


F250 options are 3.55 & 4.30


1st gear ratio is 4.6957
10th gear ratio is 0.6357


From what I could find, 7.3 and diesel both get the same 10r140 transmission, so it should be very stout for the 7.3 @ half the torque of the diesel.


At this time it's hard to tell what rpm the engine will prefer for cruising on the freeway.
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Old 10-10-2019, 04:03 PM   #50
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I'm 6'1 and I have zero knee rubbing issues. This is a full size truck, not a Miata LOL.

To each his own, but I shied away from trucks with the flip down, screams "Worktruck" to me.
Im 6ft1 also but im mostly legs. Screaming work truck is all vinyl interior. The fold down armrest just offers way more function than the console and on new trucks you cant even tell its a flip up seat. My last 3 trucks had a console, the current f350 lariat doesnt, the console definately looks nicer, but the function is really nice when you need it.

The vault sounds semi interesting although if a thief has gotten through windows and locked doors id have a hard time believing an insert box would be much of a deterrent either.
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Old 10-11-2019, 12:00 AM   #51
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It is 4x4. Front seat is 40/ 20/ 40 bench seat. Do not know rpms at highway speeds. 9th and 10th gears are both overdrive. Hoping it would be around 2000rpms. My 2011 with the 6.7 with 3.31 gears turns 1600 at 65mph. I generally lock out 6th gear because it keeps shifting between 5th and 6th.
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It is 4x4. Front seat is 40/ 20/ 40 bench seat. Do not know rpms at highway speeds. 9th and 10th gears are both overdrive. Hoping it would be around 2000rpms. My 2011 with the 6.7 with 3.31 gears turns 1600 at 65mph. I generally lock out 6th gear because it keeps shifting between 5th and 6th.
4.30 gear with 32.1Ē tall tire s/b 2003 rpm at 70 mph in 10th gear.
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Old 10-13-2019, 03:37 PM   #53
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2019 Ram 3500 SRW 4X4 Diesel re-engineered drive train and suspension. Limited model with latest safety features and technology. Six months no problems and liking it more every day. With smaller Diesel and 4X4 reduce bed capacity but still tows 17,000 lbs.
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Buy the new truck. There are changes to all trucks every year. New injector systems. New turbos. New air pumps. New transmissions. New axles. If you donít buy a new truck because of new parts you will never buy a new truck. I think most of the negative comments come with the frame of mind that we still live in the 60ís. We donít. Have faith in the companies.
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Old 10-13-2019, 04:17 PM   #55
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I may not need a new tow vehicle since I have a F250 V10 but I'm going about 2K lbs heavier with a new fifth wheel later this year and looked into a new truck. New fifth I'm guessing will come out to about 12.5K loaded

I like fords but I'm shying away from a first model year transmission. I like the idea of a 10 speed but being the first year out what's your take? Are you a fearless early adopter?
I just ordered a new F450 company truck for my son and have no fear of the new models. I have a 2017 myself that replaced a 2013 both F450ís and I love them so much so that I will never buy a lighter truck. The turning radius of the F450 is for and above most trucks even 3/4 ton short beds. 6í tighter turning circle than a F350. My buddy had a Chevy 1/2 ton with the extra short bed and my truck turns sharper. The 6.7 diesel pulls a load very well. Fuel mileage isnít the best but it does have 4.30 gears so canít really expect great fuel mileage but she will tow a load. I was pulling an excavator on a gooseneck trailer throttle hills of southern MO and set the cruise at 72 and she never wavered all the way back to St. Louis. About 150 miles. Just my two cents worth.
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Old 10-13-2019, 04:43 PM   #56
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Buy the new truck. There are changes to all trucks every year. New injector systems. New turbos. New air pumps. New transmissions. New axles. If you donít buy a new truck because of new parts you will never buy a new truck. I think most of the negative comments come with the frame of mind that we still live in the 60ís. We donít. Have faith in the companies.
Not really, do you realize how much it costs to change that stuff on the fly? The only way theyll change anything is if its problematic on a large scale.
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