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Old 07-29-2021, 09:57 PM   #1
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Suburban vs Expedition Max

My wife and I are in the process of getting a new SUV. We have 3 you do kids and a dog and the truck is out of the question. We are torn between the following:

Trying to figure out which one is going to be a better tow vehicle for a trailer that we are going to try and keep under 30 feet and GVWR of 7500

— 2018 Ford Expedition Max 4WD EcoBoost 3.5L V6 GTDi DOHC 24V Twin Turbocharged. Heavy-duty engine radiator; Pro Trailer Backup Assist; 3.73 electronic limited-slip differential (eLSD); Integrated Trailer Brake Controller; Two-speed automatic transfer case with neutral towing capability (4x4 only)

— 2020 Chevrolet Suburban LT 4dr SUV 4WD (5.3L 8cyl 6A) 3.42 rear axle ratio; Trailer brake controller; Standard suspension package with increased capacity and premium smooth ride with air leveler; Autotrac 2-speed active electronic transfer case
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Neither. Get a truck suitable for the job and have your significant other follow in the car.
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Perfect reason why we had a diesel excursion (01 7.3PS) for many years. She pulled the wife, 4 kids, 2 dogs and a large quad bunk trailer like a freight train for many years (16). Why the big three don't slap a diesel in an SUV is beyond me. I guess the EPA and the conservationists would have a cow if they did.

I'm not a big "truck" guy but you don't have many options these days if you want to pull anything significant.
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Perfect reason why we had a diesel excursion (01 7.3PS) for many years. She pulled the wife, 4 kids, 2 dogs and a large quad bunk trailer like a freight train for many years (16). Why the big three don't slap a diesel in an SUV is beyond me. I guess the EPA and the conservationists would have a cow if they did.

I'm not a big "truck" guy but you don't have many options these days if you want to pull anything significant.
Suburban can be had with a 3.0L diesel.

I don't know about the Expedition, but the gasser on the Suburban gets a little bit higher tow rating. See attached for 2021 Chevy models. - would not attach as too large, sorry.

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The 6.2 in the burb would be a better choice than the 5.3
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Old 07-30-2021, 07:43 AM   #6
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Thank you. A truck is out the question. The car is going to be my wife’s daily driver. I wish I could get her to bite on something older.

I was thinking the max might be a better choice bc it has 9000lb towing compared to the suburban 8000
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Just be careful and do the numbers, ALL the numbers based on the trailer you're thinking about. Also, DO NOT listen to the salesman (either one). THey're are many very experienced people on this board that can steer you in the right direction when it comes to what you can safely tow to avoid the white knuckle experience.
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Sounds good. I will. Trying to figure the numbers now.
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What’s the numbers?
Towing
GVWR
Tongue weight
Payload

What else
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My wife and I are in the process of getting a new SUV. We have 3 you do kids and a dog and the truck is out of the question. We are torn between the following:

Trying to figure out which one is going to be a better tow vehicle for a trailer that we are going to try and keep under 30 feet and GVWR of 7500

— 2018 Ford Expedition Max 4WD EcoBoost 3.5L V6 GTDi DOHC 24V Twin Turbocharged. Heavy-duty engine radiator; Pro Trailer Backup Assist; 3.73 electronic limited-slip differential (eLSD); Integrated Trailer Brake Controller; Two-speed automatic transfer case with neutral towing capability (4x4 only)

— 2020 Chevrolet Suburban LT 4dr SUV 4WD (5.3L 8cyl 6A) 3.42 rear axle ratio; Trailer brake controller; Standard suspension package with increased capacity and premium smooth ride with air leveler; Autotrac 2-speed active electronic transfer case
The ecoboost is going to tow much better than the 5.3. And GM is currently having a huge problem with broken/bent pushrods in the V8 engines.
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That little 3.0 diesel doesn't put out any more torque than the big V8. What's the point? Then you've got the upcharge and the price of diesel fuel.
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Don't bank on too much savings with the 6.2L V8. Takes premium gas. But pulls OK. And I thought that the recalls for the push rods was for a particular 6 month period during manufacture where they had to change suppliers. You would have to check to see if that affects your particular model.
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That little 3.0 diesel doesn't put out any more torque than the big V8. What's the point? Then you've got the upcharge and the price of diesel fuel.
3.5 ecoboost is gasoline v6
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3.5 ecoboost is gasoline v6
You can purchase a suburban with a 3.0l diesel, that is what they were talking about, not the 3.5.

I’ve had a suburban 5.3 and a expedition 3.5 if I were to get one to tow with, it would be the expedition for sure! That 3.5 ecoboost has great low end torque.
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