Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
RV Trip Planning Discussions

Go Back   iRV2 Forums > TRAVEL TRAILER, 5th WHEEL & TRUCK CAMPER FORUMS > Trailer Towing and Tow Vehicles Discussion
Click Here to Login
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 12-19-2019, 07:00 PM   #211
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 4,445
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itchytoe View Post
Not only does the data show that EVs have a significantly higher carbon footprint when being built, but carbon isn't the limit of environmental impact caused by EVs. Cobalt mining, for example, is extremely dangerous and horrible for the environment. The runoff and waste water from those mines often has toxic levels of various substances including sulfides. About 2/3 of all the cobalt in the world is mined in the Congo, often by children. Look at Kolwezi or Manyama on Google maps. You can see the environmental impact for yourself. The Congo is lush green forests, except for the mines. Those mines are ugly and barren.


We also have the problem of a limited supply of cobalt. Like I said earlier in this thread, you can't just go to Costco and get all the batteries you want. Panasonic, who supplies Elon with Tesla batteries, can't get enough cobalt to make the batteries on a big enough scale. The only way to fix that problem is to have a completely different type of battery. Sadly, no such battery exists, and you can't just modify a LiPo to not have cobalt. They'll have 1/3 the lifespan and be very prone to overheating. Remember the phones with exploding LiPo batteries? That's what will happen Teslas if you just don't use cobalt in a LiPo battery.


But yes, over the average lifespan of an EV vs an ICE vehicle, the EV has a smaller carbon footprint. It's got an exponentially bigger footprint in other areas, but yea carbon is smaller. When you look at the whole picture, EVs aren't nearly as environmentally friendly as their advocates claim.
Nope.

Most cobalt is responsibly mined.

Tesla doesn’t source cobalt from Congo.

The refining of gasoline is one of the biggest users of cobalt.

The next generation of batteries uses very little cobalt.

Portable devices presently use more battery’s than vehicles.

Cobalt is usually mined as a bi-product of other mining operations. Usually copper and nickel.

The environmental impact of mining minerals is small compared to the devastation left behind from coal mining and petroleum and gas extraction.
radar is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 12-19-2019, 08:05 PM   #212
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 1,974
If by devestation you mean good paying jobs, power for your ev, and less dependence on unstable areas for energy i agree 100%
Jshopes81 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Tesla pickup unveil still on for November. radar Trailer Towing and Tow Vehicles Discussion 41 10-15-2019 09:58 PM
Tesla unveils 7kw battery pack for $3,000 avid_dk iRV2.com General Discussion 17 05-03-2015 07:44 AM
EverGreen Unveils Full-Sized Tesla Toy Hauler DriVer RV Industry Press 3 06-07-2014 02:03 PM
Newmar 21st International Rally Edmund A Skibinski Newmar Owner's Forum 132 10-12-2006 04:03 PM
July 21st Iam Looking today NEED help LeeB Workhorse and Chevrolet Chassis Motorhome Forum 5 07-25-2005 02:27 AM

» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:04 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.