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Old 07-31-2021, 01:47 PM   #1
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Test drove an F-450

Got a bee up my butt and went and test drove an F-450. XL trim with most of the extras I wanted. First impressions:

1. The turning circle is much better so I didn't really notice the larger size. Made it really easy to maneuver and park. Very nice.

2. The ride was outstanding compared to my 2500. I was expecting the same or worse, but not so. I drove the same rough roads I drive every day with my 2500 and the 450 just felt much smoother. No bone jarring like I feel in my 2500. Maybe it's because it is new, but I would much rather daily the 450. I kept looking for the TPMS to see if they had the tires @ 45 psi, but couldn't find it in the menus. Turns out the 19.5" tires don't get TPMS. Why is that?

3. The 10 speed is awesome. It goes through the low gears really fast but very smooth. Would love to pull my 5er with it, but the diesel vs. 6.0 gasser would have resulted in my buying the truck right then. Actually, I would not have bought that one because it didn't have power folding mirrors.

4. Interior is fine but nothing fancy. Which is what I want. My final configuration I built online has cloth seats as I abuse them and don't really care for leather in a truck.

That's about it. The local dealer had 4 of them on the lot. 3 XLT's and this one. None had everything I wanted though. I did talk to the Internet sales manager and she said the wait for a 450 is minimum 12 weeks, which is fine. Can't wait to get permission from the wife to order one!

I did debate 350 vs 450 and priced them both out. Price is within $800 for the same configuration and I really liked the smaller turning radius, so I'm going with the 450.
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I had an older 2012 F-450. Back then they were just a F-350 with bigger brakes, wide track front which I agree, easy to park. I drive a F-250 now and the F-450 was much easier to park. Also the F-450 came with 4:30 gears which was great for towing but not good as a solo highway driver with the old 6 speed.
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Had both 350 & 450. You made the right choice.
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I had an older 2012 F-450. Back then they were just a F-350 with bigger brakes, wide track front which I agree, easy to park. I drive a F-250 now and the F-450 was much easier to park. Also the F-450 came with 4:30 gears which was great for towing but not good as a solo highway driver with the old 6 speed.
Its crazy following the line of the 350/450 trucks. Except for the 6.4, the 08-10 450 are still the best with their s110 rear.
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Check into the insurance for an F450, vs F350. Might be a shock.

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Check into the insurance for an F450, vs F350. Might be a shock.

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I did. I got quotes from USAA on an F350 DRW and F450 DRW and the price was the same. Also checked OH registration law and I can register it as a passenger vehicle.
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Old 07-31-2021, 05:47 PM   #7
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I am a bit surprised that the F-450 rides ok. My F-450 rode ok with stranded truck tires. The 2017 and newer F-450s ride on commercial 19.5" wheels and tires. I thought those commercial tires game a more hash ride.

I heard a long long time ago that a stiffer frame would allow engineers to tune the suspension more. That must be the case here.
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I am a bit surprised that the F-450 rides ok. My F-450 rode ok with stranded truck tires. The 2017 and newer F-450s ride on commercial 19.5" wheels and tires. I thought those commercial tires game a more hash ride.

I heard a long long time ago that a stiffer frame would allow engineers to tune the suspension more. That must be the case here.
I am too. They couldve also improved the seats too. I know our base model stuff at work, you hit a hard bump and itll make you see stars.
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Do those work trucks have a cloth bench seat? If so, those are probably less comfortable than the bucket seats. I do not know about cloth the seats in the XLT.

I do know for me the seats in the Lariat trim and above are very comfortable. I can do an all day drive (950 miles) without any back ache. I probably have done that just over a dozen times.

My wife's son just visited. He drives a 2018 Raptor with massaging seat backs if you can believe that.

I had one car that after 3 hours my back would ache. This car had no lumbar adjustment. All my trucks have had a lumbar adjustment which makes long trips more comfortable, even the 2012 F-450 was comfortable.
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Do those work trucks have a cloth bench seat? If so, those are probably less comfortable than the bucket seats. I do not know about cloth the seats in the XLT.

I do know for me the seats in the Lariat trim and above are very comfortable. I can do an all day drive (950 miles) without any back ache. I probably have done that just over a dozen times.

My wife's son just visited. He drives a 2018 Raptor with massaging seat backs if you can believe that.

I had one car that after 3 hours my back would ache. This car had no lumbar adjustment. All my trucks have had a lumbar adjustment which makes long trips more comfortable, even the 2012 F-450 was comfortable.
Theyre usually vinyl 40-20-40. The work trucks have no lumbar adjustment and theyre rough to spend all day in. I was just thinking maybe the better seats had better cushioning.
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I kept looking for the TPMS to see if they had the tires @ 45 psi, but couldn't find it in the menus. Turns out the 19.5" tires don't get TPMS. Why is that?
I believe it's because the 450 is considered commercial so the law/requirement doesn't apply.
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I always thought that lumbar support was important.

I am not aware of any suspension differences between a F-450 work truck vs a Limited. In the Ram work truck vs the Limited you get air suspension I think.
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I don’t know about the F-450, but in the F-350 the Limited ride is pretty plush. The Limited comes with less aggressive tires than do the other trim levels, which may make the difference. Does the F-450 provide options for tires?

The Limited trim level is marketed to old guys towing things for fun. I would not be surprised if the suspensions were tweaked for a smooth ride, although I have never heard that to be the case.
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Ford must be doing something right. Went from a 3500 ram to a 4500. Within 100 miles the Hankook tires were in a dumpster. Downright dangerous tires. Compared to the 3500 the 4500 rides like chit and wanders in any ruts like a drunken Irishman. The 4500 is far more capable but if it was my personal vehicle I wouldn’t own the ram 4500.
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