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Old 07-09-2006, 08:10 AM   #15
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Ray, yes the engine weighs more, but that is not even 1/2 of the issue. The diesel just has so much torque that just off idle it will walk away from a gassser. Like I said, look the difference in torque curves.

My 2002 truck weighs 8000# loaded and has a GVWR of 11500#, leaving me a real world 3500# for pin weight. If I go back to the curb weight on a base truck, the pin weight allowed is over 4000#.

A 3/4 ton, crew cab diesel (Ford of Chevy) will scale out close to 7300#. In order to have a pin weight capacity of 3000#, the truck will need to have a GVWR of 10,300#. Are they rating 3/4 ton Chevy and Fords that high now?

You can ot go by the brochure data except for very rough approximations and need to make allowances for added weights and equipment.

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Great discussion. This is exactly the type of discussion which helped up make our decision in 2002. We ended up with the F250 diesel and have never has any towing problems mountains or flat terrain. I really love the way the engine holds the entire rig in check going down the mountains. Since we are flatlanders going down western mountains makes me wimper a lot.
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Hey everyone, thanks for all of your input. I'm sure glad I found this forum, because it seems you can ask a question here and get really good information without starting a war that usually leads everyone completely off the real subject. It's all about the FUN!

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Mike, I am also with you on this topic. I have an 02 Ram 1500 pulling a 33.5'Ultralite TT with 20" P-rated wheels. I decided to try the 20" E-rated wheels and what a mistake. Granted I got rid of the bouncing and swaying but lost my pulling power. Went from 8 mpg to 6.5 I now have 17" E-rated tires and will try them 2 weeks from now. The knowledge that is in this forum is spectacular. My next vehicle will be a diesel for sure.
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