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05-08-2018, 09:13 PM
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#99
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Junior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: May 2018
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Fleetwood Pace Arrow tow vehicles.
Question: has anyone ever pulled (flat) a Jeep Liberty, Renegade? It is an 04 w/80k miles. Or....how about a 2008 Saturn Vue? We have a 03 Pace Arrow 37A, V10 Ford. Any input appreciated, even to the issues or problems w/ either vehicles???
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10-24-2018, 09:37 PM
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#100
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Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Palm Coast FL
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Most RV sales people don't own and never owned an RV. Same goes for the tow vehicle salespeople. They are selling something they know nothing about. Very frustrating. I just traded my 1 year old 3.5 LTR Eco Boast F150 capable of towing 11,500LBS with alite suspension and low rear axle rating. Both the TV salesman and RV salesman told me it could pull anything up to 12,500lbs. Unfortunately I was uneducated at the time. I just bought a F250 to pull a maximum trailer weight of 9,735lbs. I hope I didn't make the same mistake twice.
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10-25-2018, 04:43 AM
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#101
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 164
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bro61021
Most RV sales people don't own and never owned an RV. Same goes for the tow vehicle salespeople. They are selling something they know nothing about. Very frustrating. I just traded my 1 year old 3.5 LTR Eco Boast F150 capable of towing 11,500LBS with alite suspension and low rear axle rating. Both the TV salesman and RV salesman told me it could pull anything up to 12,500lbs. Unfortunately I was uneducated at the time. I just bought a F250 to pull a maximum trailer weight of 9,735lbs. I hope I didn't make the same mistake twice.
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What are you towing? I would imagine at least with the F250 your payload increased substantially...
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10-28-2018, 01:26 AM
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#102
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 235
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Originally Posted by jwomack
Easy way to chose your TV is to ask your RV salesperson. Then use this easy guide:
1. If sales person says a 1/2 ton is adequate, get a 3/4 ton
2. If they say a 3/4 ton is adequate, get a 1 ton
3. If they say you need a 1 ton, its time to talk to your local medium-duty dealer
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Pretty much... 
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10-28-2018, 01:28 AM
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#103
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 235
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bro61021
Most RV sales people don't own and never owned an RV. Same goes for the tow vehicle salespeople. They are selling something they know nothing about. Very frustrating. I just traded my 1 year old 3.5 LTR Eco Boast F150 capable of towing 11,500LBS with alite suspension and low rear axle rating. Both the TV salesman and RV salesman told me it could pull anything up to 12,500lbs. Unfortunately I was uneducated at the time. I just bought a F250 to pull a maximum trailer weight of 9,735lbs. I hope I didn't make the same mistake twice.
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Yes, I see stuff like that all the time.
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10-28-2018, 01:29 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 235
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Originally Posted by menoble
I had one of those "1/2 ton towables", they must mean towing from the sales lot to home. Load up the bare necessities and it's time for a 3/4 ton.
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You sound like a smart guy.
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10-28-2018, 01:33 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 235
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Originally Posted by goingtoenjoy
so true - I handed the RV salesman my owners manual showing the capacity of my 2500 HD and he still tried to sell me a unit well over my limits ( and it was over on the dry weight ) .
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Originally Posted by Mzbrandi
Ha ha so true. RV salesman will tell you anything to sell you an rv.
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Originally Posted by Gordon Dewald
At issue is the trailer sales are not required to inform you of the limitations. They should be.
If one dealer looks at your truck and says "Too Small" the buyer will likely move on where they will buy when the dealer says "No Problem".
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Yup. Common problem.
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10-28-2018, 01:38 AM
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#106
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 235
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Originally Posted by Gordon Dewald
Makes me wonder why so many folks are adamant they can tow trailers with the truck at or over capacity. "Tows just fine".
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Originally Posted by Cyclone Dave
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Bingo.
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10-28-2018, 01:44 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 235
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Originally Posted by justimagination
 ..............whether towing Travel Trailer or 5th wheel, you will notice a substantial difference when towing with a Dually, it's much more stable and safe,JMHO. Good luck and travel safe.
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Yes. I've towed with both, and there is a massive difference in handling and safety when comparing a dually to a single rear wheel truck.
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11-06-2018, 02:56 PM
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#108
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Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2018
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Newbie here. Tow vehicle required?
Just purchased a 35' travel trailer. Weight about 8500lbs empty. I'm looking at a F350 with a diesel that was bullet proofed. Is this too much truck? Do I need a weight distribution hitch system? Leaving for the south after Christmas! Thanks for any information! Matt and Debi!
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11-24-2018, 08:57 AM
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Member
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt.debi
Just purchased a 35' travel trailer. Weight about 8500lbs empty. I'm looking at a F350 with a diesel that was bullet proofed. Is this too much truck? Do I need a weight distribution hitch system? Leaving for the south after Christmas! Thanks for any information! Matt and Debi! |
Definitely not too much towing capacity, and that is a personal matter on wanting such a large tow vehicle.
My trailer is 37ft, 8,400 dry with the second a/c in the bedroom, and I opted for a F 150 HDPP as a tow vehicle that wasn't too much of a compromise as a larger vehicle, but met all capacities for the rig and allows for safe and comfortable towing.
Not sure about the WD necessity for the setup.
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02-04-2019, 10:59 AM
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#110
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Junior Member
Join Date: Feb 2019
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i just found this forum and appears to have a LOT of great info.
Trailer purchase is still several years away but, i've looked into it twice and get more confused everytime. We've got a 17 RAM 1500 Quad cab 4x4, wife wants a 5th wheel but, I don't want to buy a new truck.
Confusing yet, 5th Wheel street doesn't have options for 4x4 and such.
My truck dealer looked up on some magic RAM site and says 9,930 on a hitch or 10,300 on a 5th wheel. The RAM site (by VIN) shows 1,360 for payload and 9,930 max tow.
5th Wheel street shows heavier conventional then 5th wheel.
Is there any "real", easy way to figure this out?
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02-04-2019, 11:05 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Recently moved to Arkansas and set my RV on my 25 acres until my new house is built.
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Originally Posted by boydn1
i just found this forum and appears to have a LOT of great info.
Trailer purchase is still several years away but, i've looked into it twice and get more confused everytime. We've got a 17 RAM 1500 Quad cab 4x4, wife wants a 5th wheel but, I don't want to buy a new truck.
Confusing yet, 5th Wheel street doesn't have options for 4x4 and such.
My truck dealer looked up on some magic RAM site and says 9,930 on a hitch or 10,300 on a 5th wheel. The RAM site (by VIN) shows 1,360 for payload and 9,930 max tow.
5th Wheel street shows heavier conventional then 5th wheel.
Is there any "real", easy way to figure this out?
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Yes, there is an easy way to figure it out. There is an app called RV Tow Check that can assist you in discovering the realistic vehicle towing capacity.
However, I can tell you up front that no Ram 1500 can safely tow without exceeding the weight safety rating of most any 5th wheel trailer. That is the reason it is best for towing conventional trailers. There is only one 1/2 ton truck that can safely tow a small number of the very lightest 5th wheel trailers and that one is a very explicitly equipped Ford F150
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02-05-2019, 09:06 AM
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#112
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 1,464
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyclone Dave
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This story is still there just in a different place.
https://www.escapees.com/my-truck-pu...buyers-beware/
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Russ & Paula, Portland, OR. The Beagle Belle.
2016 Ram Laramie 3500 DRW Aisin 4X4 14,000# GVWR.
2005 Keystone Copper Canyon 293FWSLS Rear Kitchen 12,360 GVWR
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