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09-24-2019, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by grindstone01
I have towed a swivel wheel for 7 years full timing and it's legal in the US. A swivel is attached like a rear bumper platform at 2 points with a support wheel. Using a swivel wheel is not double towing.
I also believe that double towing is overlooked by most LEO's that are focused on going after dangerous situations, like speeding and running stop lights.
Double towing is illegal only in the East and West coast states.
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I've seen ads for that setup. It must be able to pivot up and down quite a bit at the 5th wheel attachemnt huh? I can imagine the movement going up a steep driveway,entrance or curb.
Also, I have to wonder how roadworthy it is as it doesn't appear to have any suspension?
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09-24-2019, 08:49 PM
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Try double towing in calif if you have calif plates.....you will be pulled over to check on your doubles endorsement from DMV.
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09-24-2019, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by kdauto
I've seen ads for that setup. It must be able to pivot up and down quite a bit at the 5th wheel attachemnt huh? I can imagine the movement going up a steep driveway,entrance or curb.
Also, I have to wonder how roadworthy it is as it doesn't appear to have any suspension?
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They have full range of motion up and down at the fifth wheel connection and typically have a torsion axle for suspension.
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09-24-2019, 09:05 PM
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It would be a responsible thing to get on your phone and call the coppers if you see illegal double towing or over length towing. There's too much disrespect for the law and too many people thinking they're entitled to do as they please.
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09-24-2019, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JpalmerCass
It would be a responsible thing to get on your phone and call the coppers if you see illegal double towing or over length towing. There's too much disrespect for the law and too many people thinking they're entitled to do as they please.
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Cause the cops are gonna come running, I'm sure. I've done that for drunk drivers weaving all over the road to no avail. As far as the rest of your statement, we all break several laws a day. I'm sure you don't speed or roll stop signs, right?
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09-24-2019, 09:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JpalmerCass
It would be a responsible thing to get on your phone and call the coppers if you see illegal double towing or over length towing. There's too much disrespect for the law and too many people thinking they're entitled to do as they please.
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09-24-2019, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Old-Biscuit
No Recipocity bewteen states on Towing Laws
Each State has their own and choose to enforce or NOT
Recipocity is only for Drivers Licenses and Vehicle Registration
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Add insurance to your list to be accurate.
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09-24-2019, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by aknavy
As far as the rest of your statement, we all break several laws a day. I'm sure you don't speed or roll stop signs, right?
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That we might break some laws is no reason to break more. And if we're free to decide for ourselves what laws we can break...well you can see where that reasoning can end.
I don't consciously speed and never roll stop signs.
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09-25-2019, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by JpalmerCass
That we might break some laws is no reason to break more. And if we're free to decide for ourselves what laws we can break...well you can see where that reasoning can end.
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That reasoning ends with egregious logical fallacies. Someone choosing to not follow a specific law doesn't mean they're just going to randomly choose to not obey laws prohibiting murder, mayhem, and piracy, then start a life of raping and pillaging on the open seas.
Not following one law just means that the person isn't following that one law. It doesn't lead to anything else.
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09-25-2019, 07:56 AM
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The cops may ignore a guy towing triple just driving down the road because they have bigger fish to fry, but get in to an accident while triple towing and see what happens.
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09-25-2019, 07:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kdauto
I've seen ads for that setup. It must be able to pivot up and down quite a bit at the 5th wheel attachemnt huh? I can imagine the movement going up a steep driveway,entrance or curb.
Also, I have to wonder how roadworthy it is as it doesn't appear to have any suspension?
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The Swivel Wheel has worked good for us over the last 7 years and 80k miles. I have hauled a GL1800 and now a VTX1300. If you go that route, I would suggest a TPMS, rear camera, and 2 spare tires.
https://www.cruiserlifts.com/collect...8-single-wheel
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09-25-2019, 07:58 AM
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If everyone was stopped for breaking a law nobody would be going anywhere and everyone would be complaining that they have hired too many cops and they want to constantly be buying too many cars. There would almost have to be one officer per driver on the roads. It's just not practical or possible to police everything.
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09-25-2019, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Itchytoe
That reasoning ends with egregious logical fallacies. Someone choosing to not follow a specific law doesn't mean they're just going to randomly choose to not obey laws prohibiting murder, mayhem, and piracy, then start a life of raping and pillaging on the open seas.
Not following one law just means that the person isn't following that one law. It doesn't lead to anything else.
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I was talking about society in general, not individuals. If we were free to disregard those laws we don't like some people would take up brigandage. And if we confine the notion to traffic laws...
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09-25-2019, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JpalmerCass
I was talking about society in general, not individuals. If we were free to disregard those laws we don't like some people would take up brigandage. And if we confine the notion to traffic laws...
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Be it society in general, or the individual, we do decide which laws we will and will not follow. Quite literally, every single person, and the public at large, decides which laws they will and will not follow. Some people do in fact take up brigandage. There are pickpockets, car jackers, petty thieves, and all sorts of brigands around the world. Fortunately, those people are a small minority.
I was trying to point out that not obeying a specific state law about double towing doesn't have any far reaching effects. Someone who doesn't obey that law isn't more likely to become a brigand than anyone else. Trying to reason that someone who breaks laws about double towing means that they are going to try to break more laws with more severe penalties until they get caught or hurt someone, is the reasoning that leads to egregious fallacious conclusions. That's just not how the real world works.
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