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4x4ord · 07-08-2021, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Nlambert

I think I said previously that you can get close... but not the exact same. Rear leaf specs are close, but not identical. You still don't get the additional leaf. Good grief. It's obvious that a couple of you are trolling to try and get someone to make the mistake of overloading their truck. Good luck with it. If someone doesn't have the sense to buy the right truck, I hope I never meet them on the highway.

If the OP didn’t already have his F250 I’d recommend that if he wants a SRW he should buy a F350 SRW. I’d also recommend that if he is towing most of the time he should consider a dually for his trailer, but, he already has a truck. Because the truck he has will handle his Cyclone every bit as good, if not better, than my f350 would, it is very easy for me to encourage him to use what he already has. After seeing first hand how well it handles his toy hauler he might choose to keep what he has. On the other hand some of you on here might have him already convinced to sell the Ford and buy a Kenworth.

JIMNLIN · 07-08-2021, 09:08 PM

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I think I said previously that you can get close... but not the exact same. Rear leaf specs are close, but not identical. You still don't get the additional leaf. Good grief. It's obvious that a couple of you are trolling to try and get someone to make the mistake of overloading their truck. Good luck with it. If someone doesn't have the sense to buy the right truck, I hope I never meet them on the highway.

Wrong again....and I see no reason to start name calling. No one is trolling...just trying to enlighten some like you who can't or won't read (ALL) Fleet Ford specs on the two trucks in question.
Rear axle specs are the same per Fleet Ford specs. No trolling ...just stating what Ford engineering specs tells us.

Your reading comprehension needs attention as I've already said a F250 with the camper or heavy service pack and a same as F350 srw don't make a good match for a 22k lb GN or 5th wheel trailer. Both will need 19.5" tires and wheels and air bags/etc.......JMO.

My issue is your posting mis information that the F350 srw some how has more suspension than the F250 with the camper pack/heavy service pack as I mentioned above.

And being the same truck Ford gives them the same tow ratings. If they were somehow different it would show up in the tow ratings.

Anyways the replies are getting redundant and points already made over and over along with name calling so.......

Nlambert · 07-15-2021, 08:31 AM

I forgot about this thread until I ran across a picture of my 2012 Ram 2500 pulling the Coachmen Adrenaline M-400DS 43' toyhauler back from Bowling Green KY to Alabama. Dealer told us before we got there that a 2500 would bring it back with no problem.

16k GVWR on the trailer. 12.5k dry weight.

See any issues with this? We did. This was the most white knuckled ride I have ever taken. The dealership drove down from KY and took the rig back with a Ram 3500. The GM said the salesperson should have never even sold it to us. At the time, I didn't consider the specs and went off of what someone else told me would work. Same thing as the Ford..... 2500 and 3500 components are identical. All but the suspension. Shouldn't be an issue......

kdauto · 07-15-2021, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Nlambert

I forgot about this thread until I ran across a picture of my 2012 Ram 2500 pulling the Coachmen Adrenaline M-400DS 43' toyhauler back from Bowling Green KY to Alabama. Dealer told us before we got there that a 2500 would bring it back with no problem.

16k GVWR on the trailer. 12.5k dry weight.

See any issues with this? We did. This was the most white knuckled ride I have ever taken. The dealership drove down from KY and took the rig back with a Ram 3500. The GM said the salesperson should have never even sold it to us. At the time, I didn't consider the specs and went off of what someone else told me would work. Same thing as the Ford..... 2500 and 3500 components are identical. All but the suspension. Shouldn't be an issue......

Yikes! That must have been undrivable? I don't think I would have gone on the road with that.

Nlambert · 07-15-2021, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kdauto

Yikes! That must have been undrivable? I don't think I would have gone on the road with that.

It was sketchy, and is why I am so adamant about following the posted weight ratings now. Hindsight is 20/20. We're lucky that no one was hurt.

tuffr2 · 07-15-2021, 08:29 PM

It is never ok to drive on public roadways overloaded. But it can be done on back roads at slower speeds. It is dangerous even on back roads and even more dangerous on the freeway.

It is no fun driving white knuckled.

4x4ord · 07-16-2021, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Nlambert

It was sketchy, and is why I am so adamant about following the posted weight ratings now. Hindsight is 20/20. We're lucky that no one was hurt.

When the garage is empty large toy haulers can have a pretty heavy pin weight. You most likely didn’t have air bags on your Ram. I haven’t towed with a Ram but my guess is that even back in 2012 a 2500 Ram diesel with air bags and sufficient tires would not have been a white knuckle experience.

Nlambert · 07-16-2021, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 4x4ord

When the garage is empty large toy haulers can have a pretty heavy pin weight. You most likely didn’t have air bags on your Ram. I haven’t towed with a Ram but my guess is that even back in 2012 a 2500 Ram diesel with air bags and sufficient tires would not have been a white knuckle experience.

No airbags, for obvious reasons. In 2012 and 2016 Ram had one of the highest payload capacities of the 3/4 and 1 ton trucks. The tires on the truck were fine. The suspension was not, nor was the stability on the interstate with wind. The truck sagged over 5 inches.

If you believe for one second that any 3/4T truck would tow that rig or one similar without issue, regardless of what band-aids you try to apply, you're nuts. It was way over payload.

I looked at the options to add airbags and anything else that I could think of to try and make the truck do the job. In the end after a lot of research, I did what most should do and bought a 1 ton DRW. Problem solved.

4x4ord · 07-16-2021, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Nlambert

No airbags, for obvious reasons. In 2012 and 2016 Ram had one of the highest payload capacities of the 3/4 and 1 ton trucks. The tires on the truck were fine. The suspension was not, nor was the stability on the interstate with wind. The truck sagged over 5 inches.

If you believe for one second that any 3/4T truck would tow that rig or one similar without issue, regardless of what band-aids you try to apply, you're nuts. It was way over payload.

I looked at the options to add airbags and anything else that I could think of to try and make the truck do the job. In the end after a lot of research, I did what most should do and bought a 1 ton DRW. Problem solved.

I don't doubt for a minute that the dually solved your problem. Your suspension was way overloaded. Looking at other options obviously isn't going to fix anything. Just like looking at a dually wouldn't have fixed it. I don't think I would have towed that trailer as far as you did had it felt as you describe. However, I towed a trailer that weighed double the dry weight of your toy hauler with a 2011 SRW F350 from Texas to Alberta ... it was very relaxing drive.