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Old 07-05-2021, 12:58 AM   #1
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Towing with 2017 Hyundai Santa Fe

Hello everyone. I am looking to buy a tt. Looking at R-Pod 193 and at Salem FSX 178BHSK. I have worked out towing numbers and i think I have it all covered. I would prefer that folks don't say go buy a bigger tow vehicle. If my numbers are missing something let me know. My vehicle has a payload of 1296# a tow rating of 5000#, and 500# max tongue weight. TT dry weight 3654, TT GVWR 4835, and hitch weight 435#. Passengers 4 total: 1x 180#, 1x 130#, 2x 100#, and 100# of cargo equals 1045# includes TT hitch weight. Leaving me with 251# of payload. I plan on buying a tongue weight scale to ensure I don't go over 500#. Vehicle comes with transmission cooler, and hitch. I will also use a WDH when towing to help with sag and sway. I will also have electric breaks. I think I have everything to put me within a safe and comfortable towing experience with this set-up. Please let me know if I am missing something. Thank you.
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The 100 plus pound WDH is going to put you over max tongue weight. The mandatory battery and propane will add even more weight as dry weight doesn't include propane, tanks, and battery as they are dealer add ons.
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Old 07-05-2021, 05:44 AM   #3
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You have the right idea. Youíre going to be cutting it close though and those trailer weight numbers are not reliable. Full tank of gas will probably put you over. Same with a full load of water. Any miscalculation on cargo will also put you over. Youíll be safer with a smaller rig (and youíll sleep better the night before traveling). Be conservative. What does Hyundai say for front surface area of a towed trailer? Sitting on the driveway is different from pulling it down the road. Itís not just weight that you need to consider.
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You are definitely very, very close you your capacity limits but kudos for using the gross vehicle weight of the trailers and not the dry weight. Definitely be sure to accurately measure the tongue weight before you travel. Also would be a good idea to weigh the whole rig at a commercial truck scale. And know that you will always need to be super careful about minimizing what you carry in both your tow vehicle and inside the camper.
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Over loaded vehicle with a short wheel base is a wreck waiting to happen.
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You’ll be fine. Just take the battery, lp tanks off and have someone follow you with them and all your camping gear along with any passengers in a pickup truck. Don’t drive over 40 mph and everything will work out.

Oh, and please let us know what roads you’ll be taking.
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Old 07-05-2021, 07:28 AM   #7
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Sorry sir I don't think that is accurate. The tongue weight is the static force the trailer tongue exerts on the hitch ball. WDH will add to my payload not my tongue weight.
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"Boogie" thank you for your feedback. Unfortunately it doesn't help. I am doing my due diligence to not be overloaded. If my numbers suggest I am overloaded than I would go with a smaller TT.
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Old 07-05-2021, 07:34 AM   #9
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"Amosnandy" appreciate the sarcasm that is why I posted here.
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Old 07-05-2021, 07:49 AM   #10
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TT GVWR is 4835#. Is the maximum permissible weight of the unit when fully loaded. It includes all weights, inclusive of all fluids, cargo, optional equipment and accessories. Meaning I won't be going over my towing max rating. My payload is under not over but close and tongue weight would need to be checked for sure to stay under 500#. I will for sure consider smaller for peace of mind. I appreciate the help.
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The dry weight of my Jayco says it includes a full load of propane, but does not mention a battery, so it’s safe to assume you have to add that in.

We ended up with a Jayco 212 QB with a max weight of 5500 pounds and 450 pound tw. It all worked out for out numbers wise for our Durango RT and while I was never exactly “white knuckling” it while driving I ended up getting a truck that tows the present trailer but will grow if/when we move to something larger.

I agree the sarcasm may not be helpful, but it sounds like you did not come here for objective advice, but to have people reinforce a decision you’ve already made. If your plan is short trips on relatively flat roads you may be fine. You won’t like dragging those boxes at highway speeds for long trips and I have no idea how your TV will react going up hills in the summer heat. I know my old Mazda didn’t like it and gave out pop up a transmission fluid bath when it boiled over going over a bridge.

Good luck
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Old 07-05-2021, 08:08 AM   #12
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Tongue weight is the weight that the hitch is rated to carry. Since the WDH is attached to the trailer and the receiver it s weight is most certainly part of the tongue weight as it is also pulling down on the receiver.
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My story - I towed a 26.5' long 4,600lb travel trailer with a Gen1 Honda Ridgeline with a wheelbase of 122". I used this truck to tow on back roads to local state parks from 3 years no problem. My top speed was 50 mph on these back roads. The Ridgeline did good enough.

Then I made a 280 mile trip on the freeway. Speed limit was 70 mph. That was a white knuckle, two hands on the steering wheel and making continue steering corrections to keep control of the trailer. My max speed never hit 70mph as the 3.5 litre engine could not pull that box that fast because of the wind resistance of the front. Also the back cause a vacuum trying to suck the trailer backward. Semi trucks would 1st push my rig go the right then pull my rig to the right as they passed.

You will be the towing over 95% of your tow vehicle capacity.

Again you will be fine if keeping your speed under 55 mph IMHO.
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Old 07-05-2021, 08:47 AM   #14
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Again thank you everyone. I haven't made a decision yet and have only started looking in recent days. The figures I gave when I started would be my max. I wanted the group to tell me if I was missing some type of configuration when it came to numbers. I have experience towing trailers with my current vehicle but never a TT. Towed a center console fishing boat from Florida to Washington weighing 4000# but I know TT and boat are different beast. When towing with Santa Fe I would never exceed 65 mph as per owners manual and 45 mph up hill as per owner manual.
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