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Old 12-15-2022, 03:13 AM   #71
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Belgian tongue-weight-rules...

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From the photo, it looks like your handling problem could be not enough tongue weight. The tongue weight should fall between 10 % and 15% of the loaded trailer weight. It appears that the axles are pretty much located dead-center on the trailer. This being the case you need to load heavier toward the front of the trailer.

But with your current tow vehicle, you will need to be careful not to put too much tongue weight on the vehicle. The less expensive solution might be to load the trailer a bit lighter and balance the load to put more weight on the tongue.

As for a really nice tow vehicle, I really like the Ford F150, 3.5L EcoBoost with the Tow Max package. It will out perform the Sierra or the Tundra.

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Here in Belgium (and all of Europe) there is for cars, a maximum allowed tongue weight of 100 kg (220 lbs) with a normal weight of around 70 kg (155 lbs)... no matter of how much weight has been loaded in the trailer... His problem is the short trailer...with the axles mounted in the middle
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Old 12-16-2022, 09:24 AM   #72
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Here in Belgium (and all of Europe) there is for cars, a maximum allowed tongue weight of 100 kg (220 lbs) with a normal weight of around 70 kg (155 lbs)... no matter of how much weight has been loaded in the trailer... His problem is the short trailer...with the axles mounted in the middle
That's just about the worst idea I have ever heard. Fine for a trailer under 2,000 lbs.....luckily larger trailers aren't as common in Europe as they are in N.A. My trailer would be uncontrollable with 220lbs of tongue weight......maybe the key is the word "cars" which shouldn't be towing trailers much over that weight anyhow.


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Old 12-17-2022, 02:03 AM   #73
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That's just about the worst idea I have ever heard. Fine for a trailer under 2,000 lbs.....luckily larger trailers aren't as common in Europe as they are in N.A. My trailer would be uncontrollable with 220lbs of tongue weight......maybe the key is the word "cars" which shouldn't be towing trailers much over that weight anyhow.


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...unfortunately, these are the laws in most of the EU countries... as far as we talk about cars, vans, light weight trucks (all with a weight under 3500 kgs = included people and load), they may never tow more then 3500 kgs, and a tong weight of max 125 kgs... I know it sounds little bit crazy, but I did not make the law...They all fall into the category of driver's license B...
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Old 12-18-2022, 05:39 AM   #74
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Good luck, you will need it! You probably bought the american truck with the weakest payload available. It should be more stable than your VW, but it won't have much more pulling power nor payload. Since your trailer appears to have very little tongue weight it "might" do the job, but your trailer itself still seems to be an issue to me.

Not sure I would want to fool around with a lfter and camshaft job once the metal is worn like that. I'd be pricing a new or rebuilt long block before sinking 4000-5000$ (or Euros) into that.
^^this. A rebuilt engine with a warranty is around $4k US.

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Old 12-18-2022, 09:06 AM   #75
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Here in Belgium (and all of Europe) there is for cars, a maximum allowed tongue weight of 100 kg (220 lbs) with a normal weight of around 70 kg (155 lbs)... no matter of how much weight has been loaded in the trailer... His problem is the short trailer...with the axles mounted in the middle
I cannot find any laws or statutes showing that. All I saw was a max GVWR of 750kg for trailers for a regular driver's license. I do see that large travel trailers are allowed, even when they exceed this weight.
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Old 12-18-2022, 11:41 PM   #76
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I cannot find any laws or statutes showing that. All I saw was a max GVWR of 750kg for trailers for a regular driver's license. I do see that large travel trailers are allowed, even when they exceed this weight.
For example in Czech republic (i think all EU states have the same rules) is regular licence for category B (you can drive a car with weight 3500kg as maximum) you can use a trailer with own weight + a cargo + a car must have as maximum 3500kg.

Next option is an extension catefory E for B. Then you can: Trailer + cargo with maximum weight 3500KG, car is not in this weight.

I didnīt met with police officer solves tong weight. They are interested in driver licence and weight of trailer with car according your licence.
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Old 12-19-2022, 02:24 AM   #77
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I cannot find any laws or statutes showing that. All I saw was a max GVWR of 750kg for trailers for a regular driver's license. I do see that large travel trailers are allowed, even when they exceed this weight.

It ain't that simple as it looks like for outsiders...that's why I always say I don't live in Belgium, but in Belgistan... so ridiculous laws can be.
When a trailer has a GVWR of 750 kg, in Belgium, it does not need to be registered, and has no license plate of its own (one drives with a copy of the towing vehicle's registration plate-> this is ONLY true as far as I know here in Belgium!). A regular driver's license "B" is for all vehicles with a GVWR of maximum 3500 kg... towing a trailer of +750 kg, but less then 3500, the driver needs to have a "B+E" drivers license... For this category, the max tongue weight is restricted to 100 kg's, and for most passenger cars around 60-70 kg when towing a TT for example. It needs not much of an explication, that these kind of trailers always needs to be loaded (balanced) very carefully, to get a right tongue weight... if loaded only little bit too much to the rear....swaying of the trailer is unstoppable, resulting mostly in accidents !
I myself drive in a van (Ford E350) which has over 3500 kg GVWR, needing a "C"-category (= truck) drivers license... I have a "C+E" (E=for trailers), because I pull an US TT with tongue weight of over 420 kgs...
The tongue weight of most EU trailers are less then 100 kg's... Just watch how the trailer's axles are almost in the "center" of the trailer mounted... the US trailers have their axles placed more to the rear, so one gets a heavier tongue weight...
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Old 01-10-2023, 09:15 AM   #78
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Hello, everyone. I would like to share my first experience with RAM 1500. Car is a bit more stable compared Touareg. As many members wrote, our trailer has wheels in middle of trailer and the cargo is too height. Thatīs a reason why trailer lifts up a car and it is unstable.
The torque is almost the same as Touareg, so in the hill are these two cars very similar. Maybe RAM has gearbox build for heavier cargo (i donīt know). RAM goes on LPG, so i have 9.5MPG of LPG. It is the same as 22.4 MPG of gassoline. Tank has volume 80l for LPG (21.13 gallons). And i drive 315KM (195.73miles). The trailer i towed about 110KM (68.35miles), the rest was drive without trailer.
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Old 01-10-2023, 11:27 AM   #79
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Hello, everyone. I would like to share my first experience with RAM 1500. Car is a bit more stable compared Touareg. As many members wrote, our trailer has wheels in middle of trailer and the cargo is too height. Thatīs a reason why trailer lifts up a car and it is unstable.
The torque is almost the same as Touareg, so in the hill are these two cars very similar. Maybe RAM has gearbox build for heavier cargo (i donīt know). RAM goes on LPG, so i have 9.5MPG of LPG. It is the same as 22.4 MPG of gassoline. Tank has volume 80l for LPG (21.13 gallons). And i drive 315KM (195.73miles). The trailer i towed about 110KM (68.35miles), the rest was drive without trailer.
I am guessing but I imagine RAM does not have an LPG option for your market? If this is an aftermarket LPG setup, I'd be very cautious. I haven't seen any 5.7 on LPG but there are fleets of taxis and others that run LPG on their 3.6 Pentastar engines. They constantly damage engines. Burnt valves, burnt pistons, worn cylinders... Chrysler/Stellantis has rejected all warranty claims as this is a modification that voids warranty. They were told combustion temperatures are way too high for the material design when using LPG as fuel. Just a heads-up for you.

I still never read anything about tongue weight limits anywhere in Europe or elsewhere. I'd be modifying that trailer ASAP before someone gets killed or injured.
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