Truck size

[Jplant]

I’m looking at buying a trailer with the following specs:
25’
GVWR 7610#
Dry weight 5508#
Hitch weight 610#
Dual axle

Would the following SUV handle it? If not any suggestions? I need a SUV not a truck

2024 Toyota Sequoia Engine & Performance Specs
i-FORCE MAX 3.445L Twin-Turbo V6 Hybrid engine
437 horsepower
583 pound-feet of torque
9,520-pound towing capacity
10-speed Electronically Controlled automatic transmission, and while Rear-Wheel Drive is standard with Automatic Limited-Slip Differential

[xc-mark]

Short wheel base could make it sway very easy. Yes it will pull it but your dry weights mean nothing. figure about 15% of the GVW for your ball weight, your at 900lbs + on the back of a SUV!

[Where-2]

Two missing pieces are:

Cargo capacity of the SUV.
Weight of the people and cargo you expect to carry in the SUV, including the hitch. Add your expected loaded tongue weight to that and make sure it is under the SUV cargo capacity.

[Pathwacker]

Sequoia is a passenger vehicle primary function. Basicall black and white discussion comparing it the a 2500 sub, yukon xl 2500 or 2500 series excursion. These are mythical beasts that could haul family and tow. Current half ton sub: 5000lb tow. Sequoia no ideas. I hauled heavy as OP mentioned with a 2500 series sub with 2451 lbs of payload. Never once had issues with 30 foot plus TT all types towed.

[db4570]

Originally Posted by xc-mark

Short wheel base could make it sway very easy.

No, not true. If the trailer sways, it is because it is loaded improperly, or the WD hitch isn't set up properly. By the time it starts swaying, the tow vehicle has nothing to do with it.

Originally Posted by xc-mark

Yes it will pull it but your dry weights mean nothing. figure about 15% of the GVW for your ball weight, your at 900lbs + on the back of a SUV!

A lot of assumptions here. We have no idea how heavy the OP is going to load his trailer. I wouldn't dream of loading more than 500# or so, while others fill their campers all the way to the max, bringing every conceivable item.

Let's say the OP keeps the load reasonable, say 1000#. That brings him up to 6500# loaded. 10% is 650# for tongue weight. Some go with a higher %, but 10% is usually fine. So if his payload capacity in the SUV is , say, #1450, that leaves him 800# of cushion.

Again, it depends on how much stuff he is planning to load in the TV, too.

What is the payload capacity of the truck, what is the weight of the stuff you are going to load in the camper, and in the truck? Without these numbers everyone is just guessing and running off their opinions.

[Where-2]

Originally Posted by db4570

No, not true. If the trailer sways, it is because it is loaded improperly, or the WD hitch isn't set up properly. By the time it starts swaying, the tow vehicle has nothing to do with it.



A lot of assumptions here. We have no idea how heavy the OP is going to load his trailer. I wouldn't dream of loading more than 500# or so, while others fill their campers all the way to the max, bringing every conceivable item.

Let's say the OP keeps the load reasonable, say 1000#. That brings him up to 6500# loaded. 10% is 650# for tongue weight. Some go with a higher %, but 10% is usually fine. So if his payload capacity in the SUV is , say, #1450, that leaves him 800# of cushion.

Again, it depends on how much stuff he is planning to load in the TV, too.

What is the payload capacity of the truck, what is the weight of the stuff you are going to load in the camper, and in the truck? Without these numbers everyone is just guessing and running off their opinions.

I read on here of a RV with a 4700lb advertised dry weight and 480lb advertised hitch weight. The user ended up with a 560lb hitch weight and 4800lb on the axle for a total of 5360lb as reported on a CAT scale so it can be done. I could put that behind my Touareg TDI, and that poster was using the VW's cousin Cayenne, so it can be done.

[MtCamper]

Yes you can tow it. Then again nearly any vehicle can be set up to tow most any trailer. The real question is can you tow it safely and arrive at the campsite relatively relaxed. Your wheelbase is a bit on the short side relative to the trailer length. That will make the setup more squirley in lane change maneuvers. You will also have a substantial hitch weight that your Toyota will not like. I'd anticipate a hitch weight of 750# with an additional 75# of the WDH. Add the weight of whatever else goes into the vehicle. You are going to pretty much max out your SUV. IMHO you are close enough that the only way to tell for sure is to set it up and try it. A lot will depend on where, how much and how fast you plan to travel.

[MFL]

The OP mentioned in other post that he knows payload may be an issue using the SUV.

He has not mentioned passenger count, but insisting on SUV vrs more capable truck, seems to indicate a full load of passengers?? Only he knows what will be added to the TV, but many trucks can fit 5 passengers comfortably.

[Beamer2022]

Originally Posted by db4570

No, not true. If the trailer sways, it is because it is loaded improperly, or the WD hitch isn't set up properly. By the time it starts swaying, the tow vehicle has nothing to do with it.



A lot of assumptions here. We have no idea how heavy the OP is going to load his trailer. I wouldn't dream of loading more than 500# or so, while others fill their campers all the way to the max, bringing every conceivable item.

Let's say the OP keeps the load reasonable, say 1000#. That brings him up to 6500# loaded. 10% is 650# for tongue weight. Some go with a higher %, but 10% is usually fine. So if his payload capacity in the SUV is , say, #1450, that leaves him 800# of cushion.

Again, it depends on how much stuff he is planning to load in the TV, too.

What is the payload capacity of the truck, what is the weight of the stuff you are going to load in the camper, and in the truck? Without these numbers everyone is just guessing and running off their opinions.

Keeping it reasonable sounds good, but is very hard to do. You tend to accumulate things that get left in the camper, like a hatchet, fire poker, lawn chairs, a small grill, some tools to fix small things, etc. If they are taking a family of 5 or more, (need an SUV, not 5 passenger truck) on a week trip, there is a reason the airlines charge after 50 lbs. 2 adults and 3+ kids can easily bring 150 lbs. of clothes, bedding, toiletries, especially if you don't know what the weather is going to be, cold/hot/rain. If they are going to boondock, they probable bring a freshwater tank full, that can be 400+ lbs. Fill a fridge with milk, soda, OJ, hamburger, etc. and that can add up to 100 lbs. pretty quick. The longer the trip, the more they will bring.

Yes, 10% sounds fine, but some TT are almost impossible to load at 10% tongue weight. Mine has the fresh water tank, pass through storage, underbed storage, under seating dinette storage, kitchen cabinets and fridge, all ahead of the axles. The last CAT scale had 16.5% of trailer weight on the tongue. That will get adjusted next trip, but I don't think we can pack it for a 6 - 8 week trip without getting very close to or a little over 15% on the tongue.

Besides, for capacity calculation, you should use max numbers, not the "what we think we can do" numbers. That would be at least 15% of GVWR for tongue weight. Why would you want a TV that can't handle the max the TT can be at? JMHO

[Dave Pelletier]

Dry weights are useless as are manufacturer's "max tow ratings". Unless you have hard data, prudence suggests using the trailer's GVWR and 12 - 15% TW. Using dry weight, guessing on gear/propane/batteries/water/food and then using the bare minimum TW of 10% is a recipe for disaster.

As others have mentioned, figure out the actual payload of the SUV (yellow sticker if you can't weight it) and then allow for passengers, any gear in the SUV and any added accessories, allow 100 lbs for a WD hitch and compare what's left over to 12% of the trailer's GVWR and you'll have an inkling if it's a good fit or not......I doubt it is.

Dave