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BarryG20 · 07-05-2018, 02:20 PM

Well you asked for real sticker numbers my 17 Ram, CC, 3500, 4x4, longbed, SRW, Bighorn edition (midlevel trim) with a couple other options on top of it has a payload sticker of 4365.

chunker · 07-05-2018, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BarryG20

Well you asked for real sticker numbers my 17 Ram, CC, 3500, 4x4, longbed, SRW, Bighorn edition (midlevel trim) with a couple other options on top of it has a payload sticker of 4365.

Thank you, that's a good 1000# over the F-350s I have been reviewing and that has a safety margin I can work with. I liked my Ram dually but hope to go with a SRW.

chunker · 07-06-2018, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BarryG20

Well you asked for real sticker numbers my 17 Ram, CC, 3500, 4x4, longbed, SRW, Bighorn edition (midlevel trim) with a couple other options on top of it has a payload sticker of 4365.

Barry is that a gas or diesel Ram?

60sumtin · 07-06-2018, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by xrated

The first thing you should be looking at is the GVW of the trailer you are wanting to buy (15,000 lbs) and not the UVW.

You probably mean GVWR rather than GVW. GVW is simply the weight of the trailer plus the weight of its contents.

mrgrayaz · 07-07-2018, 05:03 PM

Its interesting looking at your calculations - because while we tow with a SRW - my bed is basically empty.

In fact all it has in it is some leveling blocks and our "blue boy" which weighs approximately nothing. If you want to load up the generator, the auxiliary fuel tank, the toolbox etc etc in the truck, your going to run into payload issues....
That is my sacrifice to the SRW gods while fulltiming

I just store everything in the trailer basement, which of course still effects the pin weight, but I figure about halves the impact to the truck...We then load the basement appropriately, very heavy stuff in the back (tools, generator, etc) and light stuff in the front ( chairs, carts etc). Its doable with some forsight and thought. And, yes we have to stop for fuel quite often which is unfortunate but again - to me that is worth doing to keep away from a LB DRW truck and stick with my easy to park SB SRW.

cfowler55 · 07-08-2018, 08:03 AM

5615 CCC on my RAM. And that 310 is heavy. I drop 4-4&1/2" loaded at rear bumper.

BarryG20 · 07-09-2018, 04:12 PM

drwwicks
my ram truck is diesel

chunker · 07-10-2018, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BarryG20

drwwicks
my ram truck is diesel

Thanks, from my research so far the Laramie adds about 3-400# to the equation. Coming up with cargo capacities of 3800-3900+. 600+- more than equivalent F-350.

mrgrayaz · 07-10-2018, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by drwwicks

Thanks, from my research so far the Laramie adds about 3-400# to the equation. Coming up with cargo capacities of 3800-3900+. 600+- more than equivalent F-350.

Check out the GVWR's. The Dodges are 12000lbs+, which is why they have the higher payload.

We looked at 2017 CC SB SRW 4x4 Laramie and it had a 12300lbs GVWR with a 7000lbs axle. We ended up getting a 2017 F-350. 11500 GVWR, but 7200lbs Axle.

chunker · 07-16-2018, 07:52 PM

I'm in negotiations with a dealer for a leftover new 2017 Ram Laramie 3500, CC, LWB 4WD. Sticker has weight capacity of 4207. Truck has the 5th wheel puck, nicely appointed but not some heavy options like sun roof which I didn't want anyway.

That capacity has a nice margin for me. I'll know in a day or two if we come to terms.

fvstringpicker · 07-16-2018, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by drwwicks

My truck's tire rating is 3750# for 7500# total on the rear but that doesn't make my rear axle rating 7500 instead of 6100 which is the published rating.

If the published rear axle rating is 6,100 lbs, the 3750 tires youre running are not OEM tires. Your axles are always based on OEM tire rating.

chunker · 07-17-2018, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by fvstringpicker

If the published rear axle rating is 6,100 lbs, the 3750 tires youre running are not OEM tires. Your axles are always based on OEM tire rating.

I don't know for a fact but I suspect the tires were original when I bought the truck last year. RAWR is based on more than a tire rating and I would suspect that you could look at any vehicle and the tires will have a rating higher than the axle. Tire weight rating is based on pressure up to the maximum on the sidewall. Since auto manufacturers recommend lower pressure for driving, primarily for comfort, the "extra capacity of the tires" is lost with lower pressure. Any weight rating or restriction has many factors in the computation, not just one. My point is that the tire rating doesn't raise the axle rating. Adding air bags doesn't raise the vehicle gross weight rating. Putting a 1T axle on a 3/4T truck doesn't raise a truck's GVWR but it does make a Frankenstein truck.

Freqz · 07-17-2018, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by fvstringpicker

If the published rear axle rating is 6,100 lbs, the 3750 tires youre running are not OEM tires. Your axles are always based on OEM tire rating.

Huh? I don’t think that’s the case...

SmokeyWren · 07-17-2018, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by fvstringpicker

If the published rear axle rating is 6,100 lbs, the 3750 tires youre running are not OEM tires. Your axles are always based on OEM tire rating.

No. Fake news.

The rGAWR is based on the LOWEST weight rating of any component that makes up the rear end of the vehicle. Not only tires, but wheels, springs and other suspension components, frame, differential, axle shafts, axle bearings, etc.

The front tires are the same as the rear tires, with the same weight rating, but the fGAWR is usually a lot lower than the rGAWR. You don't want to exceed the weight rating of the tires, but you also don't want to exceed the rGAWR, which is usually quite a bit lower than the combined weight capacity of the two rear tires.

For example, my F-150's rGAWR is 3,850 pounds, but two of my OEM rear tires combined are rated for 4,674 pounds.