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07-03-2017, 11:37 PM
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I have someone in my life that can't get around very easily, her knees are shot. I have one of these, and it's been great for the few times she has needed to use it:
http://a.co/dOp33OY
It takes up so little space when folded up I can take it anywhere I need to go. If it might help you, I hope you can find one. Good luck on finding a tow vehicle you can use for your situation.
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07-04-2017, 08:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1bigmess
I have someone in my life that can't get around very easily, her knees are shot. I have one of these, and it's been great for the few times she has needed to use it:
http://a.co/dOp33OY
It takes up so little space when folded up I can take it anywhere I need to go. If it might help you, I hope you can find one. Good luck on finding a tow vehicle you can use for your situation.
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I actually saw a fairly large fella use one of these several years ago to help him get into his work van. He pulled it out from behind the seat and quickly unfolded it. IT was attached to a small cord or rope. He put it down on the ground as a step and used it as a step stool. Once seated he reached down with his left hand and pulled up the cord and folded the stool and put it behind his seat and closed the door and drove off. Was a slick setup for sure and worked for his needs.
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07-05-2017, 06:35 AM
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I feel I need to clarify my thinking on this. I've indication experiences shared by folks with mid to slightly larger diesel 'European origin' V6, SUV's; the likes of MB ML350 & VW Tourage and perhaps even BMW 'X' series, that with the correct tow kit, load balance & anti sway, electric brakes and tranny coolers that they can comfortably manage on the highway with fuel economy in the range of 15 mpg (SAE) while draggin' 2-3 ton. I want to find out the experiences of folk who've tried to tow a 2-3 ton TT with the likes of a current late model, V6, AWD, Hyundia Santa FE XL, Kia Sorrento and/or Toyota Highlander. I'm not interest at this time in a full size pick-up or SUV based on a full size pick-up frame due to the floor pan height and that my wife will not drive a vehicle this large. This vehicle will be our sole car.
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07-05-2017, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Frankenfingr
I feel I need to clarify my thinking on this. I've indication experiences shared by folks with mid to slightly larger diesel 'European origin' V6, SUV's; the likes of MB ML350 & VW Tourage and perhaps even BMW 'X' series, that with the correct tow kit, load balance & anti sway, electric brakes and tranny coolers that they can comfortably manage on the highway with fuel economy in the range of 15 mpg (SAE) while draggin' 2-3 ton. I want to find out the experiences of folk who've tried to tow a 2-3 ton TT with the likes of a current late model, V6, AWD, Hyundia Santa FE XL, Kia Sorrento and/or Toyota Highlander. I'm not interest at this time in a full size pick-up or SUV based on a full size pick-up frame due to the floor pan height and that my wife will not drive a vehicle this large. This vehicle will be our sole car.
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The only one's I have heard from that tried it came here or a couple of other places to find out why they were terrified of driving the setup the salesman said was fine.
As somebody pointed out, those vehicles lack cargo weight capacity. I think mostly because they do not have the rear axle capacity and a body pan flexes more than a frame. I'm sure somebody will set me straight if I am wrong. ;-)
Speaking from the perspective of someone with both knees and both hips replaced it is a lot easier to get in and out of a higher vehicle with a decent running board than it is to do it with a low vehicle where I have to uncoil and lever myself up out of it. BTDT.
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07-05-2017, 09:42 AM
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Probably not exactly what you are looking for but a Lexus GX 460 is definitely capable of the towing and axle/payload ratings. It is a gussied up Toyota 4Runner with a thirsty V8. Step in height might be an issue. Another good alternative would be the Buick Enclave or Chevy Traverse or Ford Explorer; these are longer wheelbase, larger crossovers that have around 5,000 lb tow capacity, but again be aware of payload/axle ratings.
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07-05-2017, 09:47 AM
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I was looking at the Jeep site yesterday, and it looks like the Grand Cherokee still has the same 7,200 lb tow rating. Several models, none of which would present a high entry to your wife as they are passenger models. Air suspension on some.......
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07-05-2017, 09:54 AM
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You can start here:
Trailer Towing Guides | www.trailerlife.com
I don't think you should have expectations of 15 mpg towing a 2-3T travel trailer.
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07-06-2017, 05:32 AM
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Check out the following "https://youtu.be/Hmg3A5l9s0M" Is this misleading?
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07-06-2017, 12:22 PM
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I don't know if it's misleading. There was nothing other than what was being said to go off of. If I was gonna tow with a mid-size SUV anything near the max tow rating, it would pretty much require the Hensley hitch. The trailer might be at our just below tow rating, but without knowing axle weights, we don't know if the tow vehicle is overloaded or not.
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07-06-2017, 12:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frankenfingr
I want to find out the experiences of folk who've tried to tow a 2-3 ton TT with the likes of a current late model, V6, AWD, Hyundia Santa FE XL, Kia Sorrento and/or Toyota Highlander.
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You're dreaming
Darling Wife (DW) is 85 years old and stove up with rumatoid arthritus. She uses a rollator for most of her walking.
Our tow vehicle is an F-150 4x2 with "running boards". She crawls up into her seat while I stow the rollator in the back seat. Our TT grosses about 5,000 pounds when wet and loaded for the road.
Our "car" is a 2017 Highlander V6 XLE 4x2, also with factory running boards. Wonderful family car (for two old folks and two dogs), but not a good tow vehicle for a normal TT. The Highlander is no easier for her to get into than the F-150. I suspect the same would be true for any medium-sized crossover SUV, or even the Expedition full-size SUV.
Our TT is a Skyline Nomad Joey 19.6. Two steps to crawl up into it. DW complains about those steps, but she "makes do" to get into and out of the Joey. She'd rather travel and put up with the pain of stepping up into the tow vehicle or "car" or TT than to stay home and wait for her final breath. I'm proud of her.
No, you don't need AWD or 4x4. I've never had one, and I've lived in snow country for dozens of years. Put the right tires on a 4x2 and learn how to drive. AWD or 4x4 usually adds step-up height to any vehicle. My Highlander is high enough without needless increase in step-in height.
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07-17-2017, 10:18 AM
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Guess I'll have to look elsewhere for the info I want...........
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07-17-2017, 10:33 AM
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I think you're more likely to find the combination of low step-in height with good towing capacity in a full-size van than a small or medium SUV.
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07-17-2017, 10:40 AM
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I don't think anyone is making what he wants anymore.
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07-17-2017, 01:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frankenfingr
Guess I'll have to look elsewhere for the info I want...........
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If the info you want is for someone to tell you that those vehicles are fine for what you want to tow, the only person that will tell you that are the people that will take a commission from selling you the vehicle.
Be careful.
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