Washington state bans sale of gas light vehicles as of 2030

[Zephyr2]

I see pluses and minuses with the switch to electric vehicles. One thing that we could all appreciate is that electric motors are really simple and reliable compared to internal combustion engines, but the electronics that are needed to control these things will be impossible for most of us to do anything with. Imagine the power you'll have at your disposal when boondocking, but also imagine the fireball if something goes wrong with that giant lithium battery bank. Obviously range is a huge concern, but campgrounds are already set up with charging at every spot. Yes, camps will have to vastly upgrade service, but not immediately. You could go from camp to camp, charging slowly for a few days while there. Anyway, like all things, there are pluses and minuses.

[move on]

I think boondocking with a full electric vehicle will not be feasible. By the time you arrive at your boondocking site your battery will be mostly run down and you'll be lucky to get to a charge station on the way home.

[radar]

Originally Posted by move on

I think boondocking with a full electric vehicle will not be feasible. By the time you arrive at your boondocking site your battery will be mostly run down and you'll be lucky to get to a charge station on the way home.

Depending on the destination that could definitely be a issue, however slow speed off road travel would definitely extend range. Just the opposite of gas vehicles. An EV with a 600 kilometre range at highway speeds would have double that range at 35 km an hour. Speed kills range.

[Zephyr2]

I think boondocking with a full electric vehicle will not be feasible.

Obviously, some planning and thought would be necessary, but if you have say 300 miles of range and use maybe 50 miles of range to get to your boondocking spot you can still have a lot of battery power at your disposal. Couple that with a decent solar array and you could be self-sufficient for a long time.

[move on]

That might work, but not if you want to run your air conditioners. In that case you'll need to bring a gas/diesel genetator set with you.

[F4Gary]

GM is already walking back their "all electric by 2035" statement.

[jvbutter01]

Originally Posted by F4Gary

GM is already walking back their "all electric by 2035" statement.

ha ha ha yea after a while they realize hmmmmmm

[Cumminsfan]

Originally Posted by F4Gary

GM is already walking back their "all electric by 2035" statement.

Got a link?

[Boogie_]

Originally Posted by Cumminsfan

Got a link?

https://insideevs.com/news/502251/GM...mYtCRwmdD0lxhs

These projected dates will never be realized and will only get pushed further and further down the road.

Much like the global warming chant of: "We only have ten years left"

I've been hearing that since the '80's.

[move on]

Note that when a manufacturer says he's going all electric it doesn't necessarily mean that the cars won't have internal combustion engines. It could simply mean that they have electric motors as part of their drive train. They could also have a gasoline engine, like a plug in hybrid. I think this is more likely to be the case in 2030.

[radar]

Originally Posted by move on

Note that when a manufacturer says he's going all electric it doesn't necessarily mean that the cars won't have internal combustion engines. It could simply mean that they have electric motors as part of their drive train. They could also have a gasoline engine, like a plug in hybrid. I think this is more likely to be the case in 2030.

I agree. By 2030 there will still be lots of scenarios where gas and especially diesel will still make sense. A hybrid would be a good fit for those situations. 2040 on the other hand will be a different story.

[move on]

And by 2050 the automotive landscape will have completely changed with the proliferation of driverless technology.

[jvbutter01]

Originally Posted by move on

Note that when a manufacturer says he's going all electric it doesn't necessarily mean that the cars won't have internal combustion engines. It could simply mean that they have electric motors as part of their drive train. They could also have a gasoline engine, like a plug in hybrid. I think this is more likely to be the case in 2030.

I don't see how they are "all electric" if that is true. Electric backed up by gas is not "All Electric" in my book. Does the public not take the time to hear there comments and read it like i do, literally?

[radar]

Originally Posted by jvbutter01

I don't see how they are "all electric" if that is true. Electric backed up by gas is not "All Electric" in my book. Does the public not take the time to hear there comments and read it like i do, literally?

Be that as it may, car manufacturers do use that nomenclature. Electrified can mean Hybrid. In my opinion Hybrids have a place in the mix. They wouldn’t work for us as they wouldn’t provide any advantage for the additional cost, complexity and additional maintenance over a pure BEV. But they do work well in some situations.