Weight police I need help please

[Rolling Ragu]

Chris, the point of my post was NOT that I had "made a mistake". If that's how it reads, then I didn't word it well. My true point is that 99% of the time it was fantastic. Extreme downhills had me nervous, but reality is that I never had a failure, so the nerves were self induced.

Doing it over with a 3/4 ton, is directly related to MY particular usage. I frequently made long trips through tough grades and with a family, could have used more CCC in the truck. If conditions were different, I could confidently recommend the F150 to the OP.

[kone]

Thanks, all.

[Cumminsfan]

I think this subject gets over thought a lot. The OP's TT is in the medium weight range. Under 7,000 loaded. Thats 100% 1/2 ton towable. Any newer (2015+) F150 with the max tow option will tow that TT effortlessly all day long.
The max tow will give you close to 2000 lbs for CCC. unless you load the truck to the gills with options.
This is a build that I would do if I were in your shoes. Click on summary.
https://shop.ford.com/build/f150/#/c...WD.XLT.63S.%5D

[tuffr2]

I just watched FTL on YouTube. 2019 GMC Sierra with the 6.2. Ford F150 3.5 Eco-Boost Limited, and 2019 Ram 1500 Limited. They were towing a 6 foot wide horse trailer loaded with cement blocks and water for a total weight of 9,100 pounds plus 3 big guys in the truck that weighed (my guess) 800 lbs. They said they had 910 pounds of tongue weight.

They rated the trucks as such:

1. Ram 1500 Limited
2. GMC Sierra
3. F-150 Limited.

The Eco-Boost proves still to be the fastest up the mountain. But the Ford squatted 3".

The GMC squatted 2" and was almost as powerful as the Eco-Boost at 9,000 to 11,000 feet elevation where the Eco-Boost has an advantage.

They all liked the Ram interior and with the air suspension did not squat at all.

They mentioned the Ford was not as stable as the other trucks. I did not look at the wheelbase. I know the 2019 GMC and Ram were increased in 2019. Ford was increased in 2015.

I looked at the 2019 Ram and thought it was very nice. I have not looked at the 2019 GMC.

If I was looking at getting a new 1/2 ton truck and did not want to order a F-150 with HDPP.i would consider either the 2019 Ram or the 2019 GMC both with frame improvements and wheelbase increases.

[akjbmw]

Originally Posted by kone

Thanks for the info. I'm running the numbers now on an F150 @ "cannot exceed" 1750#. 400# bodies, 1050# hitch (15% of 7000) and a wdh and there's already nothing left.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding? The wdh changes things? Removes a % from the hitch and puts on axles?

Truck is:
Front gawr 3600
Rear gawr 4050
gvwr 7050
Payload "cannot exceed" 1750

Trailer is:
Uvw 5250
Gvwr 7000

The GVWR rating of the truck is the major Key.
Only one post included a reference to it.
A published "Payload" is a ballpark reference.
Take the truck to a scale and weight it like you are ready to go without the trailer attached. THIS is the available weight you can add. This means the trailer tongue weight AND the dirty sneakers you add onto the truck.
BTW, the total of the axle weights will be greater than the GVWR, but they do not overide the GVWR.
These details just pushed me up to a 1-Ton when I learned that all was not within the specified ratings.
Happy towing.

[Ron355]

2017 Silverado 1500 pulls my 2018 Winnie 2500FL fine. Got 9 mpg pulling 65mph for a 1500 mile round trip.

[Dana Anderso]

If you go with Ford, only go with the 6.7 as your desiel. The engine alone comes with a 100,000 mile warranty. I have a f-350 dually turbocharged and tow a 36 foot 5th wheel and I hardly know it’s there. I actually pick up speed up hill in the mountains. Comes with a great engine brake also. F350 4 door 8 foot bed with a tool truck box behind the cab. Took a trip recently 13 mpg. Better around town.

[akjbmw]

Missed a major detail to my earlier post...
Subtracting the actual weight at the scales from the Gross Vehicle Weight Rating gives what more you can put into the truck and add as hitch weight.

[UtahEngineer]

Originally Posted by tuffr2

I just watched FTL on YouTube. 2019 GMC Sierra with the 6.2. Ford F150 3.5 Eco-Boost Limited, and 2019 Ram 1500 Limited. They were towing a 6 foot wide horse trailer loaded with cement blocks and water for a total weight of 9,100 pounds plus 3 big guys in the truck that weighed (my guess) 800 lbs. They said they had 910 pounds of tongue weight.

They rated the trucks as such:

1. Ram 1500 Limited
2. GMC Sierra
3. F-150 Limited.

The Eco-Boost proves still to be the fastest up the mountain. But the Ford squatted 3".

The GMC squatted 2" and was almost as powerful as the Eco-Boost at 9,000 to 11,000 feet elevation where the Eco-Boost has an advantage.

They all liked the Ram interior and with the air suspension did not squat at all.

They mentioned the Ford was not as stable as the other trucks. I did not look at the wheelbase. I know the 2019 GMC and Ram were increased in 2019. Ford was increased in 2015.

I looked at the 2019 Ram and thought it was very nice. I have not looked at the 2019 GMC.

If I was looking at getting a new 1/2 ton truck and did not want to order a F-150 with HDPP.i would consider either the 2019 Ram or the 2019 GMC both with frame improvements and wheelbase increases.

Tuffr2 and FTL on YouTube are correct ... by “hook or crook” as Tuffr2 implied ;-) ... my former employer supplied me the Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi V8 and the Ford F-150 with the 3.5L Ecoboost at different times for work trucks ... and I personally owned a Silverado 1500 with the 6.2 L V8 ... so I can attest to the 3.5L Ecoboost being the best pulling / towing motor.

[Tireman9]

Before you get hung up on make, model, and options I suggest you review this info Fron RVSEF on matching TV to TT.


With the numbers in hand, you are less likely to make a poor decision or be swayed by bell, whistles, smoke, and mirrors offered up by salesmen.