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06-03-2019, 07:03 PM
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In Nv as long as you dont go over tire rating and registration you are good with dot.
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06-13-2019, 03:10 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: SE Coastal NC
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You can pay to register any number in most states. Doesn't mean you changed the capacity or payload.
2016 xlt 250 payload 2230
2016 lariat ultimate 350 payload 3447
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06-13-2019, 03:12 PM
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Location: Wayland NY
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As you can see you get all kinds of different responses here. If the manufacturer documentation confuses you the best thing to do would be to contact them directly and ask your questions.
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06-13-2019, 03:41 PM
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What can I haul?
We were in the same position you are when we started our full time life style. I listened to a good friend who recommended a F250 Diesel crew cab with the tow haul mode. Reality was that the truck was too light in the rear end (3.73 vs 4.0+). A F350 or F450 dully with a higher rear end would have pulled the hills much better than my truck. The advice you are getting here is right on in my opinion. You might find a trailer that can carry your bike better than always carrying that heavy load around with you or unloading/reloading the bike.
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06-13-2019, 04:00 PM
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Location: Akron, Ohio
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Real easy. Watch and follow THIS video.
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06-13-2019, 04:12 PM
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Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nvs4602
I think I would look seriously at a 5th wheel toy hauler TT. You'll do better with the weights then a bumper pull at upto 500 lbs tounge weight +1200 lbs in the back. Plus your bike will be inside not out in the weather.
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Agree
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06-13-2019, 04:15 PM
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Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nvs4602
I think I would look seriously at a 5th wheel toy hauler TT. You'll do better with the weights then a bumper pull at upto 500 lbs tounge weight +1200 lbs in the back. Plus your bike will be inside not out in the weather.
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Agree
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06-13-2019, 04:24 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2014
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F250 Super Duty Owner
I have a 2014 F250 XLT 6.7 short bed. The cargo capacity on the door is 2657. GVWR is 10,000. GCWR is 26000. We have towed a 36ft fiver with a scale weight of 15,331 over 30,000 miles in the west from Texas to Washington with no problems. Only made two mods to the truck, air bags and 40 gallon external tank.
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06-13-2019, 06:35 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Sharpsburg GA.
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Tow what you want if you rig the truck right.
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06-14-2019, 05:32 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bclement
I have a 2014 F250 XLT 6.7 short bed. The cargo capacity on the door is 2657. GVWR is 10,000. GCWR is 26000. We have towed a 36ft fiver with a scale weight of 15,331 over 30,000 miles in the west from Texas to Washington with no problems. Only made two mods to the truck, air bags and 40 gallon external tank.
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Sorry to say you are likely well overloaded. Lucky you had no problems but it is a bit like playing the lottery.
Pin weight alone on that trailer would be around 3000 lbs. Airbags don't solve the brake axle and frame differences many 3/4 to 1 tons have.
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06-14-2019, 07:58 AM
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Member
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Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Sugarland, TX
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Dallas,
I see there are lots of responses to your questions, but i'll throw in my 2 cents worth as well.
I agree with comments about getting a SRW F350 verses the F250. Cost difference is minimal and they are different beasts. Sure they have the same body, engine and transmission, but the suspension, rear axle and towing capacity are different. Depending on the year, the trailer hitch is different as well. For years the hitch shank was 2", but 2.5" is the standard now. The 3.55 ratio with the 6.7and an excellent choice for towing and gets good fuel economy both towing and putting around town. Fuel economy is directly related to velocity of the accelerator pedal.
I've got a 2011 F350 6.7 SRW with an 8' box and a topper and averaged 21mpg with about 1500 payload on my last cross country trip, driving 65-80 on the interstates. 12-15 in town.
Here are a couple of other recommendations as well.
If you decide for a bumper tow
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06-14-2019, 08:11 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Maine
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If you are going full time, get a 3500/350. If you decide you need more room, you will be able to upgrade your trailer and if you decide you want a 5th wheel, you will have the truck to tow it without an upgrade of the truck. Not that much difference in cost.
I've met several people who found their trailer was inadequate for them and had to buy another truck to haul their trailer. You choice.
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06-14-2019, 08:25 AM
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Member
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Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Sugarland, TX
Posts: 49
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sorry, hit the wrong button
Several other recommendations;
If you go with a bumper tow, get a weight distribution hitch, its a must.
I have this one https://www.etrailer.com/Weight-Dist...e/RP66006.html
Install or upgrade the rear stabilizer. The stock Ford is very light duty. These make a significant improvement.
https://www.hellwigproducts.com/prod...artnumber=7271
Bilstein 5100 series shocks, significant improvement in ride quality over stock.
Mag Hytec diff and transmission covers, increase oil capacity and finned for increased cooling. The rear axle gets the best improvement since it is a closed system compared to the transmission which has a good cooler, cooled by independent coolant system, not by engine or air flow.
https://mag-hytec.com/product-catego...ential-covers/
There are several other performance improvements related to letting the engine breath better as well.
Good luck in making your decision, there's always many variables to consider.
Mike
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06-14-2019, 02:53 PM
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#42
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 634
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Go with a 450 if thinking toy hauler. Commercial tires, increased carry capacity, shorter turn radius. It will handle anything you throw at it. A decent equipped one is in the $57.5K neighborhood
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