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Old 12-06-2019, 04:32 AM   #15
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Both the Ram (2019) and the GM (2020) have new frames and a stretched wheelbase. But they are playing catch up as in 2017 Ford really did a good job with the longer wheelbase and 95% high strength steel frame.

I am wondering if maybe Ford added another few cross members to stiffen the frame a bit more. (Maybe they do not need to improve an already stiff frame).

What did they do to increase towing and hauling capacity? Just new engines?
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Both the Ram (2019) and the GM (2020) have new frames and a stretched wheelbase. But they are playing catch up as in 2017 Ford really did a good job with the longer wheelbase and 95% high strength steel frame.

I am wondering if maybe Ford added another few cross members to stiffen the frame a bit more. (Maybe they do not need to improve an already stiff frame).

What did they do to increase towing and hauling capacity? Just new engines?
Thats about all they did with the last generation over 18 years. Tweaked things here and there, but nothing major.
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Old 12-08-2019, 05:51 PM   #17
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I still have not seen any 2020 Super Duty trucks on the road or even at my dealership yet.

Has anyone else seen one in person?
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Old 12-08-2019, 06:35 PM   #18
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In Florida the 2020 F-450 7.3 is the baddest,meanest and best looking truck on the road. When you look at it it just says bring it on Dodge & GMC.
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Old 12-09-2019, 12:27 PM   #19
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I just stopped by my local Ford Dealer 'Palm Coast Ford' and was told any day now the 2020 Super Duty trucks will show up.

My thought is Ford will not be able to keep up with the demand for the 7.3 gas engine. That engine is going to be used in the motorhome Chassis so hope they leave some production for the F-250/350/450 trucks.
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Old 12-09-2019, 01:49 PM   #20
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Cool - TFL just received a blue jean blue 2020 F-350 diesel dually and a red F-250 XLT with the 7.3 Godzilla engine. Both trucks have the 10 speed transmission.

But again, no driving impressions until mid January. So they will be testing it but no video for about another month.
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I just stopped by my local Ford Dealer 'Palm Coast Ford' and was told any day now the 2020 Super Duty trucks will show up.

My thought is Ford will not be able to keep up with the demand for the 7.3 gas engine. That engine is going to be used in the motorhome Chassis so hope they leave some production for the F-250/350/450 trucks.
Depends on how many alarmists there actually are.
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What Iíve seen

I read on a Ford forum last night that the stock units are hitting dealer lots. I was able to go through the order process on October 1. I got my vin and build date on November 26. My understanding is the plant goes cold for a couple weeks for Christmas and New Year. My build date is next Tuesday the 17th. Not sure if the factory shut down will effect deliveries, but I am expecting to see it by the end of January.
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all three of our ford dealers have many 2020 super duties ....IN TRANSIT as of today


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So in the next week we will have 2020 Ford Super Duty trucks on our dealer lots...cool. There are 3 Dealers within 25 miles but in opposite directions.

Hope I can test drive a 2020 7.3 10 speed.
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I saw my 1st 2020 F-250. It was an XLT diesel with the FX-4 package and 8' bed. It only had a disappointing 2,064lb payload.
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I saw my 1st 2020 F-250. It was an XLT diesel with the FX-4 package and 8' bed. It only had a disappointing 2,064lb payload.
Sounds like ford is sticking with the old class weights. I wouldnt call that disappointing, they couldve taken an f450 and stuck f150 badges on it but they didnt.
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I will try to compare the 2020 GM 3500HD 6.6 gas truck vs the 2020 Ford F-350 7.3 10 speed. There will be a flood of information from TFL but not until Jan 21st. Probably from everyone else on that day also like Edmunds and KBB.

I find it interesting that the the 2020 GM 2500HD is such a capable truck. The 2500HD went from being a non contender to being top dog in 2020. The factory hitch is now part of the frame. Kinda like my Ford.
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I read on a Ford forum last night that the stock units are hitting dealer lots. I was able to go through the order process on October 1. I got my vin and build date on November 26. My understanding is the plant goes cold for a couple weeks for Christmas and New Year. My build date is next Tuesday the 17th. Not sure if the factory shut down will effect deliveries, but I am expecting to see it by the end of January.
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