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Old 07-26-2020, 10:13 PM   #1
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Is this repairable?

Been lurking for a while and need some advice. I picked up a 2003 R-Vision Bantam B822S hybrid last year. The PO told me that he had repaired the floor after a flood and it felt solid at that time. Used it quite a bit last summer however, as we used it more and more, the floor grew soft. Upon closer inspection, he just slapped a 3/4" plywood on top of the rotten floor. I decided to just keep rolling with it this year like this as I didn't have the time or energy to do a proper floor replacement for now.

Took it out for the first time this summer this past weekend and on coming home through Montreal's awful highways and on a stop, saw this. Apart from this, the floor and some damage on the opposite side on the fibreglass by the PO when he drove the trailer into the open door of his Firebird, this trailer is in pretty good shape.

Should I just cut my losses and sell it as a fixer-upper or fix it up? I had bought a new battery, new tires (it still had the original GoodYears dated 2003), LEDs and other little upgrades. We are in our mid-50's, I'm retired and my wife will be in a couple of years. This hybrid was a great starter to get our feet wet but having to deal with those tent ends is getting old. I am eyeing a 2016 Coachmen Apex 215RBK which would suit our needs more and still within the towing capacity of our vehicle. If I do fix it, it would be to resell it and minimize our losses.

Thanks for any advice.
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Easily within the realm of DIY, depending on skill/ tool level, and weather. I lost a piece of side overcab on my Class-C, took me 3-months to get a dry enough week to even think about disassembly. This is where pro-shops have advantage with high-roof shop space. Luck to ya, $$ should not be but a few hundred DIY
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Old 07-28-2020, 02:22 PM   #3
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Yeah, I'm pretty handy and can fix just about anything however I fear that when I get into it, it will be a can of worms and this short camping season will be taken up into fixing this. This is a pic of the other side that he crushed with his car door. Not sure what he used to patch that but it's cracking. Needs fibreglass work for sure. I replaced the damaged door with a slightly bigger used one and added one on the other side to make a pass-through storage.


When that part let go while driving, me and my wife heard a bang, like a spring let go. Didn't know what it was until we saw it. Looks like the tension of the curved plywood is pushing outward.


Anyway, I think we're heading towards another trailer that's more recent and suited for a couple. And we will give this one to our son for him to fix (likely with my help) and be used and loved by his young family.
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Old 08-02-2020, 08:06 AM   #4
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Just in case anyone is interested.


Yesterday, spent the day taking apart this mess and assessing how I'm gonna try to fix it. All the luan floor was rotted out and the 2x4 was junk. Why do they use such cheap materials is beyond me (actually the answer is CHEAP). And the 2x4 wasn't even one piece but several that were jointed together. It's exactly 8 feet long so I'll use a piece of pressure treated wood I already have left over from the deck. This trailer's saving grace is that the frame is aluminum as I've seen others that were framed with 2x2 wood.

Not sure how I'll cover the underside, maybe some thin plywood and protect it with Flex Seal rubber spray coating. This area gets assaulted by water when driving in rain so some extra protection there would be a benefit.
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Old 08-02-2020, 08:11 AM   #5
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Just in case anyone is interested.


Yesterday, spent the day taking apart this mess and assessing how I'm gonna try to fix it. All the luan floor was rotted out and the 2x4 was junk. Why do they use such cheap materials is beyond me (actually the answer is CHEAP). And the 2x4 wasn't even one piece but several that were jointed together. It's exactly 8 feet long so I'll use a piece of pressure treated wood I already have left over from the deck. This trailer's saving grace is that the frame is aluminum as I've seen others that were framed with 2x2 wood.

Not sure how I'll cover the underside, maybe some thin plywood and protect it with Flex Seal rubber spray coating. This area gets assaulted by water when driving in rain so some extra protection there would be a benefit.
Assuming you can afford it, I think your plan of giving it to your son and moving on to something more appropriate makes more sense than trying to fix this one up. It will never be right for you anyway.

And, what you see so far is probably the tip of the iceberg so it's time to move on and enjoy RVing.
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Old 08-02-2020, 09:56 AM   #6
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I agree but this season is pretty much a bust because of, you know... I have been looking at the Coachmen Apex 215RBK with the Azdel walls and floor just for this reason but prices are whacked right now because of, you know... Waiting till the fall or next year when all these newbs decide that RV'ing is not for them. We might be able to get one more short trip out of it this season. I'll fix up the front for now to make it roadworthy and it won't have to be dealt with again. The rest of the floor can be for later.
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Worked some more on the rot rocket. Put in the 2x4 attaching it to the aluminum frame with T brackets, then screwed the front fibreglass to the 2x4 and then screwed the outer edge mouldings back down. Thought that stores were closed today for the holiday so I didn't go and get that PVC sheet however, I found out later that they were open. I'll get it tomorrow but it will be another rain day. Also wanted to use the new Flex Seal Paste however it's not available here yet. Would have been perfect to fill in some of those gaps. I'll look for a similar product tomorrow. Also put a fan to help dry out what's left of the rot that I can't get out.
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For the rot you say you "can't get out", I suggest more than fan-drying. Both wet rot and dry rot involve a fungus and simply drying may not be enough. I found the following link to be informative. It's from the UK so you may need to do some research on products you can buy here:

https://www.permagard.co.uk/advice/t...ry-rot-wet-rot

There are also epoxy products like Git Rot:

https://www.westmarine.com/buy/boatl...xoCdfIQAvD_BwE
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Old 08-04-2020, 12:24 PM   #9
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2X on epoxy wood hardener. It's available at places like Home Depot. Mix it up and keep applying it to the punky spot until it won't absorb anymore.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/PC-Produ...0618/100649635

To cover the underneath with a water proof panel, pick up some FRP - Fiberglass paneling.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Glasline...9600/100389836

I had to rebuild a cab over bed area on a class C caused by leaking windows, and it started off as my worst nightmare. I piled all the rotten interior paneling and moldy insulation on the driveway and shortly there after my wife came home from work. She stopped, looked at the pile and walked away in silence. She later told me she went inside and cried thinking our RV was going to be unusable.

Between using epoxy wood hardener, new 2x2s, new interior insulation and paneling, it all worked out and we enjoyed the rig after that. Good luck with your project.
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Moosemam2, your caught between a rock and a hard place, sad, eh. The rig has next to nothing value as it is,, so, you have to go forward and fix what's necessary. I wouldn't get crazy spending money of upgrades, you won't get your bucks back , just fix what's necessary. The other problem you have is the snow fly's early up there,,, Doing the repairs as a winter project is out. Wish you luck, BTW , asking friends to help offering some Moosehead might get it done faster. HA!

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Thank you both. The rot I can't get to is basically the original flooring that goes into the interior under the cabinet. I'll probably treat it with a simple fungicide but I can't access the rest without ripping out the interior floor, including the 3/4" plywood the PO put on top of the rotted luan. Right now, I'm just concentrating on the nose piece area. The rest will be for my son to do :-)



I already picked up the 3/8" PVC board. That fibreglass panel stuff looks interesting but says it cannot be used outdoors.



Project is moving along. Today is raining so on hold for now.
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Final days. Cut a piece of PVC sheet to fit under between the nose and frame. Then put the front metal moulding back on. Screwed the lower side mouldings back on. Then, instead of using gobs of sealant, I used Eternabond Tape. It sticks like crazy and will never come off on its own. Expensive but worth it. Cut some more of the PVC sheet to put on the inside storage floor and also closed off the section that goes to the interior cabinet since I now have an outside door for a full pass through. I applied some rubberized leak sealer to the interior as far as my arm could reach. Cleaned up and done.
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WOW I'm inpressed as it looks like you ave truly put some work and time into the repair. Now your the expert everyone will be wanting to chat with. Loved the pictures and all the other inputs.

I was thinking if you come across the old seller letting him know and see the repair. Great JOB well done sir.

P.S> lest photo lower right you may want to clean up a bit more using some scrach Doctor as it go's on like wax and wipe away. Good work, was this you first time doing an rv repair?
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Thanks! I'm no expert but handy at a lot of things and try to do it right. I'll certainly give my son a hand when we tackle the whole floor. Unfortunately, the underside of the floor is rotted as I can feel the sponginess through the membrane.



I tend to post up pics and descriptions like this to help others get ideas on how to fix their own problems. I do the same on automotive forums.


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