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04-25-2021, 05:58 PM
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Electric bed issues, how does it work?
have a 2006 Weekend Warrior and the rear electric bed won't to up or down.
does anyone have experience with these beds, motors.
here is how it works, the wall switch has 5 wires, green, white, black, white, red.
The motor has two wires, black and red. the motor has a brake on it with two wires.
when power is applied to the brake it releases and the motor should turn.
in this case if I apply power to the motor it turns.
If I apply power to the bake it releases.
hook the brake wires to the motor and apply power and nothing. I still don't understand why the switch has 5 wires, where do they go?
Thanks for your time.
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04-27-2021, 01:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dgazzaneo
have a 2006 Weekend Warrior and the rear electric bed won't to up or down.
does anyone have experience with these beds, motors.
here is how it works, the wall switch has 5 wires, green, white, black, white, red.
The motor has two wires, black and red. the motor has a brake on it with two wires.
when power is applied to the brake it releases and the motor should turn.
in this case if I apply power to the motor it turns.
If I apply power to the bake it releases.
hook the brake wires to the motor and apply power and nothing. I still don't understand why the switch has 5 wires, where do they go?
Thanks for your time.
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Is it a Happi-Jac system? We have had issues of it not moving and it was the connections had come loose on the control panel. The control panel on our unit is on the ceiling near the rear. Make sure all of the wires are in tight.
https://www.manualslib.com/manual/18...-Happijac.html
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04-30-2021, 09:53 AM
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it's not the HappyJack systrem. Can't fine any controller. Was hoping someone would know how the system works and if there is a controller where would it be located.
The switch is a 5 prong and the motor has just two wires.
as a follow up I have tested the motor and the brake both of which work when connected to a battery. with the brake and motor connected together it didn't work but that was because the battery I was using did not have the voltage needed to work both.
used a better/charged battery and the brake released and the motor turned as it should. Now what? I have ordered a new switch. I'll update this after I get it installed and tested.
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05-02-2021, 05:33 AM
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i have never seen another manufacturer of power bed lifts other than happijac. i would be very interested to know who that manufacturer is! so the above post is correct. if you have 5 wires in the back of the switch ( looks like a phone cord/cat 5 connector) then you have a control board mounted close to the motor. should have the same 5 wire connector on that box and the wires to the bed motor com from it. could be mounted to the motor but that would be odd. there is a circuit board in that box and they can go bad. simple to swap out and available through happijac it it's one of there's. it is possible the switch itself went bad but usually the control board if the connectors didn't come loose.
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05-05-2021, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Dgazzaneo
it's not the HappyJack systrem.
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What is the make of the system?
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2013 Can Am Spyder RT Limited
2017 Ram 3500 w/Aisin w/4:10
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05-06-2021, 11:34 AM
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the bed has "Ultra Bed" embossed on the vinyl frame cover. That's the only indication of who or what the manufacturer is. The motor is Klauber Machine & Gear. looking up that motor, it's the same or close to the slide out motors and gear drives. Lots of different models of that out there.
I installed a new switch and it did not help.
what I noticed with the switch connected (5 wire) when probing the two wires at the motor (black and a white one) both have power at the same time. not pushing the button to up or down just connected.
Must be a controller somewhere, if it's in the walls then the bed would have to be removed to get the panels off.
Crazy. I'm guessing the controller is in the ceiling.
Thanks for all your help.
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05-07-2021, 07:03 AM
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never heard of that company so thanks for that info! there is a board somewhere that the switch connects too. all i have ever seen have been in plain site next to the motor. your going to have to join a ww specific group or call a tech to find that control board. thats crazy its not in plain site. those are very nice toyhaulers too.
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05-07-2021, 01:32 PM
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Try Lippert. They do sell a bed system.
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05-07-2021, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by moisheh
Try Lippert. They do sell a bed system.
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does lci own hapijac or does forest river still own hapijac?
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05-07-2021, 03:17 PM
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Happijac is an lci company. Lci owns just about everyone !!!!!!
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05-07-2021, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by moisheh
Happijac is an lci company. Lci owns just about everyone !!!!!!
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it sure seems like they do! i found it interesting to learn that bal industries actually makes a select number of trailer frames for campers still.
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05-07-2021, 05:04 PM
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The problem with Lippert is the poor quality of their product. The slide out mechanisms are horrible. The trailer frames all cracked. In years hone by did you ever hear of a broken trailer frame?
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05-08-2021, 06:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moisheh
The problem with Lippert is the poor quality of their product. The slide out mechanisms are horrible. The trailer frames all cracked. In years hone by did you ever hear of a broken trailer frame?
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pretty rate to hear of that in the past. lci has squeezed many companies out or bought them up. d young used to build some stout frames. they were heavy but that does go hand in hand with a stout frame. lci seems to have the " send it out and see what comes back" business model.
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05-10-2021, 04:49 PM
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Here's an update, I pulled on the wire/plug in the wall and managed to pull it out of the wall and there is no controller, the wires are butt connected together. I did find the middle black wire and it runs to the front of the trailer to a breaker then to the battery. So that breaker may be the problem, now to get a new one and test again.
I will figure this out.
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