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Michelle R · 07-14-2021, 08:33 PM

We just purchased an older (2009) Crossroads Cross Terrain 38UL. We've only hauled it home (350) miles and on one weekend camping trip so far. Our problem - The bottem beds that are fold over couches that face each other have angle iron the reinforce them. We had the bunk and the happijack overhead bunk both up while traveling recently. When we got home, the angle iron brace work is severely bent on both sides. We had a coleman TT toyhauler previously. The couches on that one folded up to the sides and you traveled with the couches on the walls. With this one, there seems to be way too much weight in the middle and it's sagging after only one trip. Has anyone seen this and what do we do about it so that we can travel with them up and load our toys underneath? My husband feels the angle iron used is too thin and just wants to beef that up with some thicker angle iron. We have no idea if the RV came this way or if it was added in and really should be used this way. Anybody have a clue?

**hamm2018** · 07-15-2021, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Michelle R

We just purchased an older (2009) Crossroads Cross Terrain 38UL. We've only hauled it home (350) miles and on one weekend camping trip so far. Our problem - The bottem beds that are fold over couches that face each other have angle iron the reinforce them. We had the bunk and the happijack overhead bunk both up while traveling recently. When we got home, the angle iron brace work is severely bent on both sides. We had a coleman TT toyhauler previously. The couches on that one folded up to the sides and you traveled with the couches on the walls. With this one, there seems to be way too much weight in the middle and it's sagging after only one trip. Has anyone seen this and what do we do about it so that we can travel with them up and load our toys underneath? My husband feels the angle iron used is too thin and just wants to beef that up with some thicker angle iron. We have no idea if the RV came this way or if it was added in and really should be used this way. Anybody have a clue?

What brand is the bed lift? On our toy hauler the bed lift is a HappiJac system.
https://lci-support-doc.s3.amazonaws...cd-0001575.pdf
https://www.lci1.com/happijac-power-bedlift
You may be able to get replacement parts from Lippert for the bed lift.
Our bed lift does fold up in the center and we travel with it in the up position. We carry a gas power golf cart and are full timers with our Road Warrior.

Michelle R · 07-16-2021, 03:19 PM

Thank you so much for replying and especially for sending the link for the HappiJac owner's manual. We didn't have one and it will help tremendously.

Yes ours is a Happijac also and last night I watched some videos on it's operation and learned a lot. Our previous toyhauler was set up already and needed no adjustment to use the way we wanted. With the help of the videos and now looking through the owners manual, I think we'll get it figured out. At the moment, our RV is at the fix it shop for other things. Can't wait to get it home and go through the happijac system with a fine toothed comb. I don't think the previous owner had it figured out either as there seems to be no need for angle iron added to both sides of the couch configuration. I think we'll just remove it and take the couches down to the side wall for travel. Thank you again for your help.

Bill Nourse · 07-17-2021, 08:22 AM

The placard on the HappiJac in my 2021 XLR Nitro says that the bed should always be in the up position when traveling. Mine does allow for the couch part to be up the sides, but that takes a lot of room away from the garage area when I have the RZR in.

**hamm2018** · 07-17-2021, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Michelle R

Thank you so much for replying and especially for sending the link for the HappiJac owner's manual. We didn't have one and it will help tremendously.

Yes ours is a Happijac also and last night I watched some videos on it's operation and learned a lot. Our previous toyhauler was set up already and needed no adjustment to use the way we wanted. With the help of the videos and now looking through the owners manual, I think we'll get it figured out. At the moment, our RV is at the fix it shop for other things. Can't wait to get it home and go through the happijac system with a fine toothed comb. I don't think the previous owner had it figured out either as there seems to be no need for angle iron added to both sides of the couch configuration. I think we'll just remove it and take the couches down to the side wall for travel. Thank you again for your help.

If you need some parts there are a couple of RV Surplus places in White Pigeon, Mi.. They are:
https://www.johnsonssurplus.com/
and
https://bontragers.com/.
Also in Goshen is another place:
https://rainbowvarietystore.com/
If a day trip is needed there is also a great Amish bakery near Shipshewana called Rise & Roll. Great donuts. Also in Shipshewana is a place called Yoder's meat market. They have numerous types of cheese and spices along with other things.

Michelle R · 07-17-2021, 09:13 PM

Yes that's true. We got looking at it again today and figured out that when the upper bunk was all the way up, we didn't have the locking pins in place - we didn't know they were needed. This system is older (2009) and not like our Coleman TT (2017) Everything was in place and automatic. The couch/dinette unit on the bottem doesn't have the brackets that fold down. So it HAS to be in the up postition when traveling. The only way for that to work is to have angle iron brackets on both sides to support the couch in the middle. It was all the way up where it was supposed to be but the upper bunk was resting on it too. With no locking pins and while traveling down the road, bouncing, both brackets bent serverely. We're probaby lucky the whole thing didn't come crashing down. I think we have it figured now and will have better luck traveling next time. I'm wondering if we can get the newer flip down brackets and attach the couch/dinette to those and be able to flip them down when we want to.

Michelle R · 07-17-2021, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by hamm2018

If you need some parts there are a couple of RV Surplus places in White Pigeon, Mi.. They are:
https://www.johnsonssurplus.com/
and
https://bontragers.com/.
Also in Goshen is another place:
https://rainbowvarietystore.com/
If a day trip is needed there is also a great Amish bakery near Shipshewana called Rise & Roll. Great donuts. Also in Shipshewana is a place called Yoder's meat market. They have numerous types of cheese and spices along with other things.

Thanks for all the info. Appreciate it!