Garage and Side by Sides

[ktn1966]

Looking through the internet I have had very little luck finding pictures or videos of side by side loaded in the back of a full timers toyhauler. The pictures I find are of an empty garage without the washing machine, tool box, or the rest of the crap we put in the back. The few that are loaded in the empty garage are not even tied down.

Maybe I have been searching the wrong keywords, but I would like to see others full time set ups with a large toy in the back. There is always room for a Harley in the Toyhauler garage but what about the Rzr or Pioneers? How are you tieing them down?

Full timers living in a GD Momentum 395 MS-R pulled with 2019 F450. The 14 for garage should hold a side by side and the rest of the crap. Doing the independent springs next year at Mor Ryde to handle any extra weight. We have the washing machine plus a small freezer in the back.

[Nwcid]

Not full time but I might be able to help some. I have read you post a couple of times. Are you just asking about how to secure your machine or something else?

When I used our garage for the SxS, I tied down to the floor tie points when loaded.

I have moved my SxS onto my tow vehicle along with all of my tool stuff is also now loaded on the tow vehicle. This has made my life so much better as I use my garage as an office.

If you area asking about what to do with all of the stuff around your SxS, well I am sure you have found it is all about trade off's. The more stuff you have the more creative you will have to be.

[ktn1966]

Thank you for the reply. Just a bunch of questions. We lost our ORV travel trailer to a fire and bought a much bigger rig so learning all I can. Bought a 2021 grand Design 395MS just over a year ago, and watched several YouTube videos of people that travel with motorcycles or they don't put anything in there garage. Does anybody travel full with a side by side? Looking for ideas or issues that people have had with a side by side in the garage. .

Trading in a Honda rancher for a side by side, the ATV fit in the garage and you can work around it and never worried about stress on the D rings and now have concerns how it will tie down with a much bigger side by side.

[Nwcid]

I am not sure what you mean by "stress on the D rings". Your RV should have somewhere between 6 and 12 D rings each, "2,500 lb. Rated Flush-Mount Tie-Downs"

I am assuming your machine is under 2000 lbs and that you will be using 4 tie downs. That means you will only be using 1/5 of the rating on each ring. I would secure your machine in your TH the same way you would on any other trailer.

I prefer wheel ties myself since that keeps the machine from moving anywhere. With that said, depending on how much clearance you have, you might need to secure the body also so it does not hit while going down the road. I have a buddy that has a very small TH and he has to secure his suspension and wheels.

Of course strap style will depend on where your tie downs are and the location of your machine. That is one challenge I faced with mine, nothing lined up well and it took me a few tries to find a system that worked well. With a full size machine, in an enclosed space you will have to do some crawling around to get everything hooked down.

There are many threads on the RZR Forums (rzrforums.net) that talk about how to secure machines in different spaces including enclosed trailers/TH.

I am looking at a new trailer and the 395ms is one of my top choices. If you do no mind I will message you when I get some free time, I have some questions.

[hamm2018]

Originally Posted by ktn1966

Full timers living in a GD Momentum 395 MS-R pulled with 2019 F450. The 14 for garage should hold a side by side and the rest of the crap. Doing the independent springs next year at Mor Ryde to handle any extra weight. We have the washing machine plus a small freezer in the back.

We are full timers and have a Road Warrior RW427. We used to take a gas power golf cart, which weighed in at around 1200lbs. I tied it down with 3 rachet straps, and only time the straps came loose was on rough roads. now we sold the golf cart and replaced it with a Can AM Spyder, which I need to figure out how I am going to strap it down.
If by "independent springs" you are talking about the MorRyde Independent Suspension, there are 4 sizes available. We had it installed in October 2020, and for our triaxle total cost was at $6500.
The sizes at that time were the 7K, 8K, 8.4K & 9K setups.
Are you considering a disc brake conversion? For the disc brakes we had Performance Trailer Braking replace our brakes during the Heartland National Rally in June 2019. For the triaxle it was about $4300, at that time.

Do you already have an appointment at MorRyde? From what I understand they are about 7-9 months out for scheduling.

Also, along the walls in the garage I have installed E-Trac, to help tying some things down, like the grill, chairs, bikes and extra table. I also installed the E-Trac in the basement area in the front to hang extra extension cords, TV cable.

[ktn1966]

Originally Posted by Nwcid

I am not sure what you mean by "stress on the D rings". Your RV should have somewhere between 6 and 12 D rings each, "2,500 lb. Rated Flush-Mount Tie-Downs"



I am assuming your machine is under 2000 lbs and that you will be using 4 tie downs. That means you will only be using 1/5 of the rating on each ring. I would secure your machine in your TH the same way you would on any other trailer.



I prefer wheel ties myself since that keeps the machine from moving anywhere. With that said, depending on how much clearance you have, you might need to secure the body also so it does not hit while going down the road. I have a buddy that has a very small TH and he has to secure his suspension and wheels.



Of course strap style will depend on where your tie downs are and the location of your machine. That is one challenge I faced with mine, nothing lined up well and it took me a few tries to find a system that worked well. With a full size machine, in an enclosed space you will have to do some crawling around to get everything hooked down.



There are many threads on the RZR Forums (rzrforums.net) that talk about how to secure machines in different spaces including enclosed trailers/TH.



I am looking at a new trailer and the 395ms is one of my top choices. If you do no mind I will message you when I get some free time, I have some questions.

Please ask away. We love the 395 MS and are happy to share.

I am looking at a Honda Pioneer 4 seater and I have saw a video were the guy gets it in but not how he straps it down. The D rings are, in what I would consider awkward spots for securing the Pioneer. Some people change out the d rings others use them, but I have found very little on full timing with a SxS.

[JeffAZ]

I am not a full-timer, but I have hauled my 2 seat Polaris Rzr on many long trips all around the western half of the country. I have a toyhauler motorhome and wanted a simple system that would be easy and quick to use in the cramped garage. I installed a Mighty Tite system, and I like it a lot. It has two fixed cages that you drive the front tires into, then a lever that clamps the rear end slightly down and forward. It takes about 2 minutes to do this. The cages and rear lever slide out and stow when not needed after you park. https://www.theatvsuperstore.com/Tra...stem-s/106.htm
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[ktn1966]

Thank you. I had not seen this system yet.

[JeffAZ]

Your welcome. This system was originally designed for a flatbed trailer where you could simply drill holes completely thru to the underside and insert long bolts to secure the frames that the cages and lever slide into. I have a motorhome with a fuel tank and electrical, hydraulic and water lines under the garage that I didn't want to get involved with, your toyhauler is prolly similar. So I placed wood inserts into the floor, just short of the depth of the plywood and screwed the frames into those. That has worked perfectly for about 5 years and 50k miles Something like these:
https://www.amazon.com/Z-Threaded-He...s%2C115&sr=8-9

[Bill Nourse]

Here is my Rzr trail in a XLR Nitro 321. I tie down with the rings that are in the trailer. They are rated for 5,000 each. Tie two in the front and two in the back.

[carlstone05]

I’m not tied down in this pic, but this is how I fit my 4-seat Turbo S. My rig has several tie down points. Also not a full-timer but get out a lot. I have room in the front for the captains chairs, enough on the sides to get in/out of the RZR, and room in the back for a couple coolers.