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Old 07-23-2018, 09:35 AM   #1
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Researching the Thunderbolt XLR 422AMP and Heartland Road Warrior 427RW for a friend. I know diesel pushers have between 28-35% markup. Does anyone know what the markup is on these big toy haulers? How big of discount makes a 2018 worth while vs a 2019?

Anyone own one of these units care to share their ownership experience?

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Ryan
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Old 07-26-2018, 06:22 PM   #2
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We have a 375amp and shopped them pretty hard. When looking in may this year went to several dealers- 2018s with paint we got prices in the low to mid 70s (71k on a fully optioned 375 with silver/black paint). Low 60s with the impact gray/decals. I would expect to pay a bit less in August on a 2018. Ended up buying a 2015.

We love the coach. Second owners and FR has been great as I needed some tech support. Thunderbolts/Nitros are manufactured seperately from the other FR lines and have their own support staff. They also sent me a full set of manuals in the T-bolt pouch. Overall build is outstanding. Would not hesitate to buy another but the RW is a quality fiver as well.
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Old 07-26-2018, 10:31 PM   #3
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We have a 375amp and shopped them pretty hard. When looking in may this year went to several dealers- 2018s with paint we got prices in the low to mid 70s (71k on a fully optioned 375 with silver/black paint). Low 60s with the impact gray/decals. I would expect to pay a bit less in August on a 2018. Ended up buying a 2015.

We love the coach. Second owners and FR has been great as I needed some tech support. Thunderbolts/Nitros are manufactured seperately from the other FR lines and have their own support staff. They also sent me a full set of manuals in the T-bolt pouch. Overall build is outstanding. Would not hesitate to buy another but the RW is a quality fiver as well.
Thank you very much for sharing your experience. Looks like the Dutchman Voltage Epic and Grand Design Momentum are being considered now too.
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Old 07-27-2018, 07:33 AM   #4
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Before we settled on the XLR we looked at the exact same lineup of coaches :-)

You’re going to find them all about equal in build quality and components/options. It’s really just going to come down to which layout and interior they like the best, as well as of course finding a decent dealer to sit down and do business with. I have not dealt with the other factories but having spent more than 70% of the last five years staying in RV parks we have found owners of all the above brands to be 99% happy with their choice. The only downside to the momentum is the pricing. They were the highest price coach ( actual dealer price when trying to make a sale, not MSRP) of all the toy hauler brands, second only to the voltage. Voltage does offer a full body paint option which although we did not get that I would have loved to been able to find something with paint instead of decals. Voltage does offer a full body paint option. The only major flaw I have heard about with the voltage is on the older models they used the Schwintech slide system on their living room slides, and had quite a few problems. They have since switched to hydraulics on their big slide outs to fix that problem but is something to consider if looking at a used model.
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Old 07-27-2018, 09:28 PM   #5
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The Voltage Epic, Thunderbolt XLR, Road Warrior and Grand Design Momentum all offer full body paint now. Depending on the brand it seems to be between $8k-12k option. Do you know what year they went to the different slides in the Voltage?
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