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Old 01-16-2021, 01:44 PM   #1
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Purchased new toy hauler today

Today my wife and I purchased a 2021 carbon 348 fifth wheel toy hauler. I purchased a new f350 srw diesel in November to tow it. I trailered it home empty (12,300) lbs and couldn't have been happier with how well the truck handled the camper. We went with the blue ox 20k slider hitch as well. Fun times ahead hopefully!
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very nice, congratulations and i hope it works perfectly
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Old 01-16-2021, 09:15 PM   #3
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very nice, congratulations and i hope it works perfectly
Thanks!
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Old 01-16-2021, 09:58 PM   #4
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Old 01-17-2021, 10:57 AM   #5
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The auto leveling seems like it will make setting up a special kind of simple lol.
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Old 01-17-2021, 02:24 PM   #6
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auto level would be very nice. you'll enjoy that feature for sure! is it electric or hydraulic ?
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Hydraulic.
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Old 01-23-2021, 06:24 AM   #8
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I picked up my new Raptor toy hauler in early March, just before the country went nuts. I had ordered so there were several things that changed my UVW. I got body paint, dual pane windows, deleted the patio system, queen bed (mattress swapped on pickup with the one from the motorhome trade in), and added slide awnings before taking possession. The UVW on the side sticker was actually a bit less than the web site published UVW but my adds, awnings, 2 batteries, propane) changed that anyway. My tow vehicle at the time was a 2017 Ram 3500 SRW LB CC Laramie diesel and I had an auxiliary fuel transfer tank in the bed, 51g. I weighed at the local CAT scales on the way home, full fuel all the way around, and was very close to my RAWR, VERY close.

I figured that loading the garage would cause a significant weight shift off the pin. Garage had HD motorcycle and my tools/extra stuff with an estimated weight of 1200-1400#. In August I took a trip and loaded for camping, weighed at a CAT scales along the way and I was over my 7000# RAWR, just under my tire weight ratings, and right at my payload (based on sticker in door jamb 4207#). Again full fuels and only 30+-g fresh water and empty waste tanks. Full fridge though. That is just me on the trip, no significant other, pets, kids, etc in the truck.

Bottom line for me based on actual weights at a CAT scales I was at the ragged edge of weights with the SRW. My garage loading had much less pin weight shift than I was expecting, maybe 20% change. Had I filled the fresh water tank, heavily loaded the basement storage area, put less weight in the garage, I would have been significantly overloaded on both truck RAWR, payload, tire weight ratings, etc. FWIW it towed "just fine" very stable and strong, BUT I didn't want to be at that ragged edge especially with little water on board. In November I traded the SRW for a 2020 Ram DRW with the HO and AISIN. Only a couple of short trips so far and still need to hit the scales but with the payload margin, I'll be good. But I will go to the CAT scales in March on my next trip.

If you haven't actually weighed, I suggest doing so. Published weights are a fantasy of the manufacturer.
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The auto leveling seems like it will make setting up a special kind of simple lol.
If you'll search about the leveling system you will find lots of useful information. I suggest getting some blocks to put under the legs so they don't have to hyper extend to get level. On mine the fronts are the worst. More stable with the struts not so extended. Some parks require blocks under jacks anyway. Yes auto-level is a nice feature after you calibrate it.
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We bought a 2020 Carbon 348 last Sept. Haul two motorcycles. Camped twice in it last fall. When running the generator fumes would set off the inside alarm. Covered the stair vent with tape stopped that. Haven't taken in the dealer yet. We like it. Pull it with 2011 F350 diesel dually.
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Some people use an exhaust extension sometimes call a genturri. It directs the exhaust up to roof level.Never used one but likely quieter also since the exhaust noise is up too.
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I picked up my new Raptor toy hauler in early March, just before the country went nuts. I had ordered so there were several things that changed my UVW. I got body paint, dual pane windows, deleted the patio system, queen bed (mattress swapped on pickup with the one from the motorhome trade in), and added slide awnings before taking possession. The UVW on the side sticker was actually a bit less than the web site published UVW but my adds, awnings, 2 batteries, propane) changed that anyway. My tow vehicle at the time was a 2017 Ram 3500 SRW LB CC Laramie diesel and I had an auxiliary fuel transfer tank in the bed, 51g. I weighed at the local CAT scales on the way home, full fuel all the way around, and was very close to my RAWR, VERY close.

I figured that loading the garage would cause a significant weight shift off the pin. Garage had HD motorcycle and my tools/extra stuff with an estimated weight of 1200-1400#. In August I took a trip and loaded for camping, weighed at a CAT scales along the way and I was over my 7000# RAWR, just under my tire weight ratings, and right at my payload (based on sticker in door jamb 4207#). Again full fuels and only 30+-g fresh water and empty waste tanks. Full fridge though. That is just me on the trip, no significant other, pets, kids, etc in the truck.

Bottom line for me based on actual weights at a CAT scales I was at the ragged edge of weights with the SRW. My garage loading had much less pin weight shift than I was expecting, maybe 20% change. Had I filled the fresh water tank, heavily loaded the basement storage area, put less weight in the garage, I would have been significantly overloaded on both truck RAWR, payload, tire weight ratings, etc. FWIW it towed "just fine" very stable and strong, BUT I didn't want to be at that ragged edge especially with little water on board. In November I traded the SRW for a 2020 Ram DRW with the HO and AISIN. Only a couple of short trips so far and still need to hit the scales but with the payload margin, I'll be good. But I will go to the CAT scales in March on my next trip.

If you haven't actually weighed, I suggest doing so. Published weights are a fantasy of the manufacturer.



very good info and advice!
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We bought a 2020 Carbon 348 last Sept. Haul two motorcycles. Camped twice in it last fall. When running the generator fumes would set off the inside alarm. Covered the stair vent with tape stopped that. Haven't taken in the dealer yet. We like it. Pull it with 2011 F350 diesel dually.

that's very concerning!
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I picked up my new Raptor toy hauler in early March.........
If you haven't actually weighed, I suggest doing so. Published weights are a fantasy of the manufacturer.
I have always run across the scales not only after loading up a new RV but about every year also. You advise is good for anyone who owns an RV.

What should concern many when purchasing a new RV is their tire rating. You need to look up what weight each tire is rated for, run across the scales, then set your individual psi according to the tire manufacturer's charts. There have been many cases where the manufacturer sends out a new unit that once loaded will have underrated tires.

One of the first things I asked about when we were recently shopping out our new TH was if the tires were G rated or not.
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