Thinking of a 30-32 foot toy hauler fith.

[JAguirre]

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Hey Jeff_in_The_Dalles - I actually know where Tillamook is!!! I lived in Colton for a few years and Scapoose for a few more - would go back in a heartbeat if hubby didn't have So. Cal in his blood.

I also like the KZ New Vision 33P, but ... DH says bigger is not always better - although I could argue that ... sigh ...

[JAguirre]

KZ Fan -

Glad to see another KZ fan out there! Just curious -- are you overweight pulling with your 2500HD Duramax while loaded (your trailer that is)? Seriously curious ... not being the weight police or anything nasty like that.

[Jeff_in_The_Dalles]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">DH says bigger is not always better - although I could argue that ... sigh ... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually, I've found a trailer this short can get a bit squirrly when backing. Once you see it is off line a little bit, you had better correct quick. Long wheelbase truck doesn't help. The few semi's I've driven seemed easier to back, but I'm getting used to it.

Since this is my first RV, I thought of it as an experiment to see what I really want (and hopefully not get hurt too bad if I sell after a couple years).

I think I got it right with a 5th wheel toy hauler (as opposed to the camper and trailer my more experienced RVing frined suggested), but next time I think I will go with a 32 PH or 33 K-Z.

Having a sleeper sofa in addition to the drop down dinette would be nice, and a second fresh water tank becomes an option... but then weight goes up, and some of the spots I can park in now would be too short.

I guess everything is a compromise.

[Intruder350]

Thanks for the welcomes. I think I haunt a lot of the same places a lot of you here do. (Dove Springs, Cal City, El Mirage etc.)

JAguirre,

I'm on the hairy edge. GMC claims fifth wheel towing of 14,400lbs. Thats without fuel or a driver. The '05 33P has a gross weight of 13600 and a dry weight of 9080. I load my trailer to the limits and probably over on a regular basis.

Never had a problem with the truck/trailer combo. Just got back for 12 days in Zion, Bryce, Grand Canyon, and Vegas. Only problem I had was the need to slow down and cool tranny when outside temp. on the grade past Baker was hitting 120F. Had plenty of power just didn't want to blow up like the dozens of RV's we saw smoking on the side of the road.