Toyhauler Weights

[lincster]

Tyler,
The F350 with the Tow Boss package will not be under rated.

Waiting a couple of years is good..... Rumor about a "new" F350 is going around. Can you say F450 Axles and wheels/tires?????

[sjseng]

That would be nice! And from what I hear, if you change the springs and blocks out on a 250 to a 350's you can jump through some hoops to get a new rating sticker. I haven't looked into it myself. My dad has had an International truck declasified so that he and his company could drive it with a class 'C' liscense. Why not reverse.

Most people seam scepticle about the new Duramax and Powerstroke engines coming out for the new ULS fuel, causing them to buy, buy, buy right now. I could understand, but if some of the torque and HP numbers coming out are true, I will be happy to wait!

[brianzzz]

Originally posted by sjseng:
That would be nice! And from what I hear, if you change the springs and blocks out on a 250 to a 350's you can jump through some hoops to get a new rating sticker. I haven't looked into it myself. My dad has had an International truck declasified so that he and his company could drive it with a class 'C' liscense. Why not reverse.

Haven't heard of getting a new sticker for the f-250 or f-350. The ratings you have posted are actually fine for an 05 or 06 F350. the only difference between your truck and the 05/06 F-350 would be the brakes and rear springs. I would change out the rotors and brakes to 05/06, install air bags and then check the load ratings on your tires. You're good to go after that!

Your drive axle weight seems pretty high. I wouldn't expect the pin weight of that trailer to be around 3400 pounds even with full water (I have the an 06 f-350 and with full gas and hitch the rear was around 3300 so add 3400 for pin to get the weight you got). Just another reason to get something nice and heavy for the back!

Brian

[lincster]

Originally posted by brianzzz:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sjseng:
That would be nice! And from what I hear, if you change the springs and blocks out on a 250 to a 350's you can jump through some hoops to get a new rating sticker. I haven't looked into it myself. My dad has had an International truck declasified so that he and his company could drive it with a class 'C' liscense. Why not reverse.

Haven't heard of getting a new sticker for the f-250 or f-350. The ratings you have posted are actually fine for an 05 or 06 F350. the only difference between your truck and the 05/06 F-350 would be the brakes and rear springs. I would change out the rotors and brakes to 05/06, install air bags and then check the load ratings on your tires. You're good to go after that!

Your drive axle weight seems pretty high. I wouldn't expect the pin weight of that trailer to be around 3400 pounds even with full water (I have the an 06 f-350 and with full gas and hitch the rear was around 3300 so add 3400 for pin to get the weight you got). Just another reason to get something nice and heavy for the back!

Brian </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Who needs a new sticker. huh Brian?

If you change out brakes and get 05/06 brakes, you better get new wheels. 16" wheels won't fit on 05/06 brakes due to the increased rotor size.

That is not a high pin weight for nothing in the back of the trailer.
My pin weight is 3400lbs with full water and my 2000lb buggy in the trailer. 130 gallons of water is heavy and the water tanks are 75% in front of the axles.

[brianzzz]

Originally posted by lincster:
Who needs a new sticker. huh Brian?

It's just there for looks anyway apparently

So why the heck does my truck weigh as much as yours? Rims, tires and lift kit?

[lincster]

Originally posted by brianzzz:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by lincster:
Who needs a new sticker. huh Brian?

It's just there for looks anyway apparently

So why the heck does my truck weigh as much as yours? Rims, tires and lift kit? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yep, all that will add weight.
How did you weigh your truck? With passengers? Stuff in the bed?

[brianzzz]

Originally posted by lincster:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by brianzzz:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by lincster:
Who needs a new sticker. huh Brian?

It's just there for looks anyway apparently

So why the heck does my truck weigh as much as yours? Rims, tires and lift kit? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yep, all that will add weight.
How did you weigh your truck? With passengers? Stuff in the bed? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I weighed it with a full tank of gas, the hitch and me in the truck. 8360 pounds.

[WWFan]

OK...new weights...just got it back from the Upland Service Center, so it was empty.



F350KR had 34 gallon of fuel, no occupants, and trailer had 1/2 tank of fuel in the 20 gal tank, and all of the holding tanks were empty. Plus, all of the cargo that we had stored was not in it.

I will detail the Service Center work in another thread, but preface it with "what an outstanding job they did"!

Sean

[Vette Racer]

Well, that doesn't look too bad. I guess you arrived at the pin weight from another weighing since these are unhooked weights. This means you only have 10,320 on the trailer axles so you've still got a lot of room. You put 3600lbs in the cargo area and that will bring it to 13,920 and will take some off the pin too, probably a couple of hundred, 4k pin and 14 and change on the axles, without water. With those 16" tires that ought to work.

[juzplanekrazy]

I dug thru this thread while I'm doing a little C.Y.A. home work on being over weight . For the what it's worth file here is weights on a WW FS2300 and 06' 3500 Dodge 4x4 CTD.
Truck= Full Fuel, 5er hitch in box in bed, wife only in truck, but ready to roll, tools etc.
Trailer= Full Propane, loaded with normal camping gear, no water, no toy's.
1st ticket is truck only.



This was all great info to learn, and it was done with the help of Lincster.
FS2300 7500lbs +/-
My truck Dodge stated rateings....
With 4.10 Axle Ratio Axle Ratio [I] You Can Tow 15550 lbs
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR) = 9900 lbs
Payload = 2587 lbs
Curb Weight = 7313 lbs See weight ticket for real deal....
Curb Weight Front/Rear = 4327 lbs/4327 lbs
GAWR Front/Rear = 5200 lbs/6200 lbs
Gross Combination Weight Rating (GCWR) = 23000 lbs

[Vette Racer]

I'll tell you JPC, you are right in the numbers, I show your hitch wt as 1320 so you are just about perfect in all your weights.

Congrats!

[lincster]

He was perfect with his old trailer, but won't be with his new one..... Huh Joe???
Just taking a shot.....messing with ya.

[juzplanekrazy]

Not me

[Vette Racer]

What a guy Linc!