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Old 05-22-2020, 12:27 AM   #15
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Yes! I need to look at this one. The new 376 has entry on the rear of the coach with slide closed access, outdoor kitchen, specs say garage 63 x 117 D x 66 - 77". If I can pull the bike in and lower the bed to sleep, it's perfect! Well, except price of course
The only dart I can throw at it, is the black tank is half the size of other momentum's in this class, and at 41' it may require a 3rd A/C? Probably not.

Thanks to all for the advice. I'm still going to keep looking around for other options, but this made the top of the list to tour when I get back to the states.

Now, F350 or F450?
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Yes! I need to look at this one. The new 376 has entry on the rear of the coach with slide closed access, outdoor kitchen, specs say garage 63 x 117 D x 66 - 77". If I can pull the bike in and lower the bed to sleep, it's perfect! Well, except price of course
The only dart I can throw at it, is the black tank is half the size of other momentum's in this class, and at 41' it may require a 3rd A/C? Probably not.

Thanks to all for the advice. I'm still going to keep looking around for other options, but this made the top of the list to tour when I get back to the states.

Now, F350 or F450?

66 closed should be fine to lower down on a bike. 52 gallon black tank is big. Mine is 40G. With me, DW, 2 teenage girls, and 3 younger boys It lasts for an entire 7-day trip. Ive come to the conclusion that no amount of gray is enough for that many people.
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Old 05-23-2020, 06:16 AM   #17
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450.....not much price difference from a 350...best to have more truck than you need instead of needing more truck than you have...but that's my biased opinion....

Good luck to you on your experience, post back when you get to check out a 376 they're really nice units
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Old 05-23-2020, 11:59 AM   #18
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450.....not much price difference from a 350...best to have more truck than you need instead of needing more truck than you have...but that's my biased opinion...
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66 closed should be fine to lower down on a bike. 52 gallon black tank is big. Mine is 40G. With me, DW, 2 teenage girls, and 3 younger boys It lasts for an entire 7-day trip. Ive come to the conclusion that no amount of gray is enough for that many people.
NewBlackDak -My current black water is 23G, just noticed it was much smaller. I agree with the gray. It's just the wife and I and it seems like our 52G fills up in a couple of days. Though we haven't really tried to conserve.
Palmeris - I agree on the 350/450 logic. Turn radius on 450 is outstanding but the ride on those commercial tires is a bit rough. Haven't tried one with a load though. Been looking at the new GMC Denali 3500HD DRW also. Very nice as well. I have a while to put it all together. Sure enjoying the research though. Puts me in my happy place. Thanks all!
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I just bought a F450 Cab/Chassis, it rides better than my old 2014 F250. The turning radius is the best. It handles better in town and no significant changes in the cab to get used too.

We are upgrading to a TH this next year, I bought the truck that could safely handle the one we end up in.
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The only dart I can throw at it, is the black tank is half the size of other momentum's in this class, and at 41' it may require a 3rd A/C? Probably not.
Most of the others, in true toy hauler style also have a front and rear bathroom which means they have a front and rear black tank.

376 has 1 toilet and gets 1 black tank.
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Most of the others, in true toy hauler style also have a front and rear bathroom which means they have a front and rear black tank.

376 has 1 toilet and gets 1 black tank.
We have a front and rear bath. Front has a 40 gal. black and a 40 gal. gray. The front gray takes kitchen, shower bathroom sink. The rear has a 40 gal black and a 40 gal gray. Problem with the rear bath, it is cramped for an adult. But for kids it is great.
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Yes! I need to look at this one. The new 376 has entry on the rear of the coach with slide closed access, outdoor kitchen, specs say garage 63 x 117 D x 66 - 77". If I can pull the bike in and lower the bed to sleep, it's perfect! Well, except price of course
The only dart I can throw at it, is the black tank is half the size of other momentum's in this class, and at 41' it may require a 3rd A/C? Probably not.

Thanks to all for the advice. I'm still going to keep looking around for other options, but this made the top of the list to tour when I get back to the states.

Now, F350 or F450?
We hardly ever use our 3rd AC unit. I think it has only been on 4-5 times over 3 years.
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https://www.keystonerv.com/toy-haule...69-toy-hauler/
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Most of the others, in true toy hauler style also have a front and rear bathroom which means they have a front and rear black tank.

376 has 1 toilet and gets 1 black tank.
Thanks, That makes sense.
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Old 06-02-2020, 03:42 AM   #25
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This is a nice rig!
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This is a nice rig!
I do like the layout-however....

I do not believe toyhaulers should have less axle capacity than GVWR. And this one has 14k in axles and 18k in GVWR. I am aware the hitch carries a portion, but micro managed engineering is not for toy haulers you can load disproportionately to the rear. Combine that with the shock impacts on the road and you end up with flattened leaf springs or worse. This was a common issue with the Momentum 351 I believe which they redesigned as a triple axle.
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With the Montana you have to open the slide to get to the bathroom, Cedar Creek
38 RTH has access to the bathroom and front living room
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Not for me, cant access anything with the slides in
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