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Old 04-03-2019, 02:29 PM   #1
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Weighed my Spartan 1245 yesterday

We've been talking about a rig diet this summer. I knew we were hovering right around the GVWR for the trailer.

Truck is: 2018 Ram 3500 DRW, 4x4, 4.10 gears, crew cab, long bed. I had just filled with fuel. Truck bed stays full. Wife, me, and son were in the truck along with normal travel-day conveniences (drinks, snacks, and entertainment options for my son). Only thing missing was my daughter.

Camper is: 2017 Spartan 1245 made by Prime Time Manufacturing (a Forest River brand). Triple axle toy hauler. Our garage is done up like the kid's bedroom, Momma's craft nook, laundry, and school supplies.

Here are my weigh slips:


Digested, here are my numbers:
Gross Combined Weight View Current Page Link
31,720 (truck's GCWR is 39,100)

Truck Weight (hitched)
13,460 (truck's GVWR is 14,000)

Truck Weight (truck only)
10,280

Camper Weight
21,440 (trailer's GVWR is 21,000 lbs.)

Pin Weight
3,180

Pin Weight Percentage
14.8 %
Other ratings:
Truck's front GAWR is 6,000 lbs. (vs. 5,660 loaded). Trucks' rear GAWR is 9,750 lbs. (vs. 7,800 loaded).

The trailer has 3 x 7,000 lbs. axles (vs. 18,260 loaded).

I was carrying 3/4 to full fresh water tank. At 100 gallons total, that's 75-100 gallons for 625 to 830 lbs. Simply dumping this out gets me under the trailer's GVWR. It also increases the pin weight percentage and the overall pin weight amount that the truck carries.

That said, the 14.8% pin weight has had no adverse effects on handling.

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I prefer using the Weigh My Truck app so that my wife doesn't have to run in nor do I have to shout over the background noise of trucks, but it seems my payment method had expired and you can't reset that within the app. You have to go to the Weigh My Truck website to update it.
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Old 04-03-2019, 02:46 PM   #2
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Better than my fathers Cyclone 3611! He found 4 broken wheels and hit the scales to fine that with just his RZR 900 and no water or fuel he is 350lb over GVWR of the trailer and 820lbs over the axle weight ratings.

Empty with just his camping gear, no food and about half their clothes and bedding they are 16,155lbs, 95% of GVWR
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Old 04-03-2019, 03:03 PM   #3
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Better than my fathers Cyclone 3611! He found 4 broken wheels and hit the scales to fine that with just his RZR 900 and no water or fuel he is 350lb over GVWR of the trailer and 820lbs over the axle weight ratings.

Empty with just his camping gear, no food and about half their clothes and bedding they are 16,155lbs, 95% of GVWR
Sad to say, as we were shopping toy haulers, I was really shocked at how low the cargo carrying capacity was on some. There was one with a super slide with less than 2,000 lbs. of capacity! In fact, it might have been that exact Cyclone.

For buyers who aren't first looking at the yellow sticker, it can be quite the nasty shock.
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Sad to say, as we were shopping toy haulers, I was really shocked at how low the cargo carrying capacity was on some. There was one with a super slide with less than 2,000 lbs. of capacity! In fact, it might have been that exact Cyclone.



For buyers who aren't first looking at the yellow sticker, it can be quite the nasty shock.


Their side sticker gives a dry CC of 1175lbs! That isnít enough for a camper, let alone one marketed as a toy hauler
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Their side sticker gives a dry CC of 1175lbs! That isnít enough for a camper, let alone one marketed as a toy hauler
That's appalling! Any chance you can take a picture of it and send it to me?
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That's appalling! Any chance you can take a picture of it and send it to me?

1175lbs carry capacity, 913lbs water load, 60lbs of propane leave 201lbs for toys, food, bedding, utensils, dinnerware, clothing, toiletries... what a joke.
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1175lbs carry capacity, 913lbs water load, 60lbs of propane leave 201lbs for toys, food, bedding, utensils, dinnerware, clothing, toiletries... what a joke.
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Well at least you have the lithium batteries, that gave you some room to load more of something...

Good luck lightening the load.
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Old 04-06-2019, 08:18 PM   #10
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My 2019 Heartland Fuel 352 toyhauler empty weight is 13,000 with a GVWR of 17,000. That gives me 4,000. Itís the same floor plan as the Torque TQ 345 JM.
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