2020 tundra towing a lance squire model SQ26

[Quantum]

I have a 2020 Toyota tundra, V8 platinum edition I am planning on putting airbags and a weight distribution hitch onto this vehicle in order to tow the lance squire SQ 26 that we are thinking about buying. This seems very doable under the right conditions . I plan on taking it very easy and driving 5 miles an hour under the speed limit and I’m not a lead foot. We also are only two people with not a lot of cargo.

Here are the specs of the SQ 26

Gross Dry Weight 6695 Lbs.
Hitch Dry Weight 623 Lbs.
Axle Weight 6690 Lbs.
Cargo Carrying Capacity 1948 Lbs.
GVWR 9400 Lbs.
I would love to hear your experience, towing this specific trailer or one of the trailers that is close to the specification. Thanks advance in advance for any help you can provide or any discussion.

[Quantum]

We are already thinking about a shorter lighter lance

[bigb56]

Can you post a photo of your yellow door sticker on the Tundra that shows your weights and payload?

[Quantum]

For some reason, it seems to not like my uploads to

[Quantum]

We are now thinking lance 2285

[bigb56]

IMO you're going to be a bit under-trucked. With the modification sticker applied to the original payload of 1,185 lbs you now only have 1,064 lbs of payload. The Lance 2285 has a dry weight of 5285 and a CCC of 2,175 lbs. Lance's own specs say the dry hitch weight alone is 760 lbs which only leaves 304 lbs for passengers and gear in the truck, and that's at dry weight. Nobody goes camping with an empty trailer so your actual weight will be more.

My son has the Tundra and he bought a Winnebago based on the advertised towing capacity but didn't even look at payload, he only had 1,100 lbs and that didn't count the bigger tires and lift he added which further reduces payload. After the first trip he went and bought a Chevy 1 ton.

Is it doable with your planned mods and slower speeds? Probably, but can't say how it will handle or how safe it will be. Keep in mind suspension mods do not increase the legal limits that the factory put on your truck. I'm sure others are doing it and will chime in, my experience with the Tundra is only with that Winnebago trailer which is similar in weights to the Lance 2285.

Have you joined the Lance Owner's of America Forum? It a pretty active forum and I'm sure you'll get a lot of responses. (Go to the "trailer talk" section of the discussion area)

We came very close to buying a Lance, great trailers BTW. Then Covid came and we just completely changed our minds and bought a small motorhome. I still have the 1 ton diesel I was going to tow the Lance with and use it for things like fishing trips and Home Depot runs.

[db4570]

That's a surprisingly low payload capacity for such a big truck.

IF you only carried 300-400 lbs in the trailer, and

IF you only have a couple of people and not much stuff in the truck, and

IF you have the weight distributed perfectly in the trailer, and

IF you have your WD hitch dialed in perfectly, and

IF you drive as carefully as you describe...

..you'd probably be OK.

Trailer is 5300# + 400# gear and a little water = 5800#.

10% of that for hitch weight is 580#, subtracted from your 1000# payload capacity leaves you 420# of payload left in your truck.

I don't believe that if you go 1 pound over your payload capacity your truck will instantly self-destruct, but that's still pretty tight.

The new Tundras advertise they have up to a 12,000# towing capacity. What a load of B.S., if the payload capacity is only 1000#.

I wish I knew what the weak link is supposed to be in a case like this, according to the manufacturer. Is it the axles? Springs? Brakes? Or could you just add heavier rated tires and that would be all that matters? We'll never know.

[MFL]

It would seem that your truck is heavily optioned, adding to the curb wt, which when deducted from the GVWR, leaves little for payload.

The F/R axle ratings are good for an average 1/2 ton. The first trailer mentioned, is too much for most 1/2 tons. Most any trailer, over 6K gross wt will put your truck over payload rating, so I'd limit trailer choices to 6,500 GVWR or less.

You may get by not having to use added suspension support, if you keep within your RAWR of 41XX.

[Cumminsfan]

1064-300 for passengers=734 lbs.
734-90 lbs for battery and propane=644.
Camp stuff in the truck and front of the TT? 150 lbs?
644-150=494
Tongue weight at 12.5%
12.5% of 4000 lbs is 500
So you can tow a fully loaded TT that weighs 4000 lbs.
Take that 4000 lbs and minus all the stuff you'll put inside and thats the UVW of that TT. Thats where you need to start.

That puts you in a larger tear drop like a Tab 400.

[JIMNLIN]

The trucks gvwr/fawr/rawr are hard to read but looks like the truck has a 4100 rawr. Same as my 1500 crew cab chevy 4wd 5.3 6l80 tranny which has a scaled 2460 lbs rear axle weight....leave's the truck with around 1640 lbs before exceed the truck mfg 4100 rawr.
Trucks mfg door sticker payload is as it leaves the factory. Add any weight to the truck makes its gvwr based payload sticker null and void.
You have the truck so drop by a set of CAT scales and weigh trucks front and rear axles separately with attention to rawr as its gonna' carry all the trailer hitch load plus other gear in the bed. Actual scaled axle weights will tell the tale on your trucks actual payloads.

Truck mfg tow rating are for trailers of all types....not just rv type trailers with fixed hitch loads. Other trailers like a stock trailer or car hauler can place moveable loads on the trailer to keep under the trucks fawr and especially rawr

[Quantum]

Yeah, it kinda looks good enough for a lance 2285, from what I’m reading. I have a lot of confidence it’s gonna work not too worried about it. Thank you for all the awesome information.

[Quantum]

Yes, it seems to be the tongue weight and the payload weight which is the constraint but I as well. I’m not sure where that is coming from. We are going to be going on flat roads and very easy so I’m not really concerned to be a couple hundred over on the tongue or payload thanks

[Quantum]

Yeah, we bought a motorhome in the middle of Covid too now we’re just getting sick of not having a vehicle to drive and we really like to go in the beach so it’s kind of necessary that we got this render from what I’m reading though people are doing this all the time and that the weight ratings are very conservative on the tundra.

[Quantum]

What about a lance 2255

The hitch weight oh m is 590 pounds, gross dry weight is 5425 8000 pounds GVWR seems to be a little bit less on the tongue weight but still I think we are close to max specifications still kicking this round a lot, any other model specifications non-land or otherwise would be appreciated. Thank you.