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06-14-2022, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by inthepines
not my possession to tell you what to do with it or how you do it.
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06-14-2022, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mike.t
Not as smart as you folks, isn't a 30 amp breaker different from a 30 amp plug?
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I have a 30 amp 120 volt circuit (30 amp breaker) with a 30 amp outlet that I plug my 30 amp shore cord into on the side of my house. That outlet is fed with a 10 gauge wire from the breaker per licensed electrician and inspector.
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06-14-2022, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by tcg
I have a 30 amp 120 volt circuit (30 amp breaker) with a 30 amp outlet that I plug my 30 amp shore cord into on the side of my house. That outlet is fed with a 10 gauge wire from the breaker per licensed electrician and inspector.
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Thanks. 10 the min to get approved? Would 8 have been better?
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06-14-2022, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mike.t
Thanks. 10 the min to get approved? Would 8 have been better?
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I am not an electrician and I never plan on having an RV big enough that would require 50 amp but if I did I would have future proofed it with 6 gauge
Ask a liscensed electrician or your city inspector what is code.
But... In my non electrician opinion 8 gauge for 30 amp is overkill and it's harder to run. Unless you have special needs which is why you should ask a real electrician.
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06-14-2022, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by tcg
I am not an electrician and I never plan on having an RV big enough that would require 50 amp but if I did I would have future proofed it with 6 gauge
Ask a liscensed electrician or your city inspector what is code.
But... In my non electrician opinion 8 gauge for 30 amp is overkill and it's harder to run. Unless you have special needs which is why you should ask a real electrician.
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Again. you folks know more about this stuff than I do, however, 8 gauge regarding electricity is not overkill. Your electric buddy could run 8 in a 10 X10 with 10 outlets without any issues, ask him ;o)
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06-14-2022, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by mike.t
Again. you folks know more about this stuff than I do, however, 8 gauge regarding electricity is not overkill. Your electric buddy could run 8 in a 10 X10 with 10 outlets without any issues, ask him ;o)
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Why are you asking if you have the answer?
I don't have an electric buddy. I'm only going by what code was when my 30 amp outlet was installed.
I'm only talking about a single 30 amp outlet, you seem to be talking about a sub panel.
My advice is still, talk to a licensed electrician about your needs.
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06-14-2022, 10:39 PM
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How do you pull 37.5 amps through a properly functioning 30 amp breaker? You are mixing apples and oranges. The NEC codes mentioned are used to determine the size of the circuit breaker required which in turn determines the size of the wire needed. 10 is the proper size for a 30 amp breaker. The only time it would be justified to use a larger wire would be if the distance causes a voltage drop that would result in unsatisfactory performance of the equipment. At no time will more than 30 amps flow through a 30 amp breaker.
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06-15-2022, 06:29 AM
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I suspect that by 'twisting' the 80% requirement, some electrician can sell you oversized wiring... "all to code".
The 80% 'rule' is that you will not run more than 80% of the wire or breakers max. current capability. So for a 30A breaker, you shall not load it up more than 80% or 24A. Period. #10 wire can be rated 30, 35 or even 40A, depending on the type...
So when people run two A/Cs and their microwave on a 30A circuit, they may end up with burnt wiring and attachments.
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06-15-2022, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by OldWEB
I suspect that by 'twisting' the 80% requirement, some electrician can sell you oversized wiring... "all to code".
The 80% 'rule' is that you will not run more than 80% of the wire or breakers max. current capability. So for a 30A breaker, you shall not load it up more than 80% or 24A. Period. #10 wire can be rated 30, 35 or even 40A, depending on the type...
So when people run two A/Cs and their microwave on a 30A circuit, they may end up with burnt wiring and attachments.
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I was just wondering the other day. This is my first 50a camper with 2 AC's. I know with my last 30a 1ac camper you couldn't run everything or it would trip breakers so we never ran the water heater on electric since it was a huge draw and didn't use much propane. Probably do the same with this one but I am curious if I could run both AC's and the water heater and have enough left over for tvs and a microwave. I'll look it up but my initial thoughts are no.
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06-15-2022, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 0rion
I was just wondering the other day. This is my first 50a camper with 2 AC's. I know with my last 30a 1ac camper you couldn't run everything or it would trip breakers so we never ran the water heater on electric since it was a huge draw and didn't use much propane. Probably do the same with this one but I am curious if I could run both AC's and the water heater and have enough left over for tvs and a microwave. I'll look it up but my initial thoughts are no.
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"So when people run two A/Cs and their microwave on a 30A circuit, they may end up with burnt wiring and attachments"
No they will not. The 30 amp circuit breaker will trip long before any damage is done.
"This is my first 50a camper with 2 AC's. I know with my last 30a 1ac camper you couldn't run everything or it would trip breakers so we never ran the water heater on electric since it was a huge draw and didn't use much propane. Probably do the same with this one but I am curious if I could run both AC's and the water heater and have enough left over for tvs and a microwave."
Remember that a 50 amp RV circuit is 220v, which means you have 100 amps available for 110v. This means you have plenty of amps to run 2 AC units, a microwave and other 110v circuits if your circuits are spread fairly equaling between the 2 sides of the 220v panel.
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06-15-2022, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ODH
"This is my first 50a camper with 2 AC's. I know with my last 30a 1ac camper you couldn't run everything or it would trip breakers so we never ran the water heater on electric since it was a huge draw and didn't use much propane. Probably do the same with this one but I am curious if I could run both AC's and the water heater and have enough left over for tvs and a microwave."
Remember that a 50 amp RV circuit is 220v, which means you have 100 amps available for 110v. This means you have plenty of amps to run 2 AC units, a microwave and other 110v circuits if your circuits are spread fairly equaling between the 2 sides of the 220v panel.
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So this brings up my follow up question haha......since 50a is a 220 line then when you dog leg it to a 30 does it just pull 110 from one side of the dogleg?
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06-16-2022, 09:29 PM
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#54
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Originally Posted by Phil Perrin
What does everyone use to store their electric cord for shore power? Is there some sort of reel?
I’m getting tired of looping it over my shoulder and elbow and stuffing it in a bin
Thanks in advance!
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Moryde makes a cord reel for that.
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