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Old 11-26-2017, 04:22 PM   #1
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How to grease/lube Moryde? I can't get any in!

I have a Moryde suspension with wet bolts - greaseable.

CRE3000 Suspension System - MORryde Products

I got grease in with the wheels on the ground at 3,200 miles - it was hard to push it in.

Now at 10,500 miles I want to grease them again.

I can't get any grease into the wet bolts, it just comes out the sides of the fitting.

I tried lifting one tire by putting the plastic stackable blocks under it - no luck.

Are there any tips or tricks I need to know?
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How to grease/lube Moryde? I can't get any in!

Heres a thread posted by someone with the same problem. It provides a few different options. http://www.montanaowners.com/forums/...ad.php?t=70719
My preference would be to take a sharp pick tool and try to free up the ball. Otherwise assuming there is one, Id take out and replace the zerk fitting. Good luck!
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Old 11-26-2017, 05:04 PM   #3
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Heres a thread posted by someone with the same problem. It provides a few different options. Replace Wet Bolts?? - Montana Owners Club - Keystone Montana 5th Wheel Forum
My preference would be to take a sharp pick tool and try to free up the ball. Otherwise assuming there is one, Id take out and replace the zerk fitting. Good luck!
Thanks - I'll try pushing in the ball.
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If its leaking out the side, the fitting or gun tip is bad. Check that the parts of the gun tip are tight.

If the fitting is plugged, you wouldn't be able to pump the gun.
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Heres a thread posted by someone with the same problem. It provides a few different options. Replace Wet Bolts?? - Montana Owners Club - Keystone Montana 5th Wheel Forum
My preference would be to take a sharp pick tool and try to free up the ball. Otherwise assuming there is one, Id take out and replace the zerk fitting. Good luck!
OK, I was able to push in the ball on several fittings with the flat side of a screw driver. It was firm but, I was able to feel it.
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If its leaking out the side, the fitting or gun tip is bad. Check that the parts of the gun tip are tight.

If the fitting is plugged, you wouldn't be able to pump the gun.
I tried two tips. One was on a flexible hose and the other was on a solid pipe type. Grease came out the side on both. I also used the flexible one the grease the axles - no problem. B

But I will check the fittings again.
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I was able to grease mine by jacking up the trailer frame, causing the shackle pivots to rotate. Some of these sleeves are not installed with the grease hole lined up. Rotation makes the job easier.
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Yes - as above - the weight/load needs to be removed from the shackle bolt. The great outlet hole in the bolt is in the middle of the bolt length and if bolt is laying on the hole it is more difficult to move grease into the space between the bolt and the bushing.

Do not try to turn the bolt with a wrench. The bolt shaft just behind the head is splined and locked into the mounting bracket.

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How to grease/lube Moryde? I can't get any in!

Having just disassembled my wet bolt system, your problem is most likely the orifice in the center of each bolt. On mine, I had to disassemble, clear the hole with a pick then reassemble.

You could try a tool used by farmers which uses hydraulic pressure to clear them. Ive never used it but a Tractor Supply or Cal Ranch store may have the tool.

Bottom like, grease them more often, once you get them cleared. If you have to take them apart make sure the bolt orifice is pointing parallel to the frame, not straight up or down. I also replaced the straight zerks with 90 zerks.
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Having just disassembled my wet bolt system, your problem is most likely the orifice in the center of each bolt. On mine, I had to disassemble, clear the hole with a pick then reassemble.

You could try a tool used by farmers which uses hydraulic pressure to clear them. I’ve never used it but a Tractor Supply or Cal Ranch store may have the tool.

Bottom like, grease them more often, once you get them cleared. If you have to take them apart make sure the bolt orifice is pointing parallel to the frame, not straight up or down. I also replaced the straight zerks with 90 zerks.
https://locknlube.com/products/alemi...d-zerk-fitting

Are the above the fitting? Do you have to remove the wheel or anything special to get them on? Or can I just unscrew the old one and put on the 90 degree one?

Thanks

I also found this instead.
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Having just disassembled my wet bolt system, your problem is most likely the orifice in the center of each bolt. On mine, I had to disassemble, clear the hole with a pick then reassemble.

You could try a tool used by farmers which uses hydraulic pressure to clear them. Ive never used it but a Tractor Supply or Cal Ranch store may have the tool.

Bottom like, grease them more often, once you get them cleared. If you have to take them apart make sure the bolt orifice is pointing parallel to the frame, not straight up or down. I also replaced the straight zerks with 90 zerks.
https://www.zerkzapper.com/product/z...-fitting-tool/
I think the above is what you mentioned.

I can push in the ball in the zerk, so I may not need it.

I am surprised that so many others have had the same problem I have.

Tomorrow I will try the grease gun again. But first I will make sure the head is in good working order.
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How to grease/lube Moryde? I can't get any in!

Good luck, but I doubt its the zerk. Hopefully, Im wrong.

That zapper is what I was talking about. With the straight zerks, youll have to remove the wheel to use it.
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If its leaking out the side, the fitting or gun tip is bad. Check that the parts of the gun tip are tight.

If the fitting is plugged, you wouldn't be able to pump the gun.
I put on a new tip and I was able to get grease into the center lube point.

I ordered the 90 degree attachment for the other points.

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The bushings make a very good seal over the grease hole in the bolt after the surfaces wear in. It would take an extreme amount of pressure to push the bushing off the hole and even the higher pressure grease guns aren't powerful enough. Jacking the frame near the offending bolt will allow grease to flow, but remember it will take the path of least resistance. Without some reservoir of grease, the surface area under pressure will soon be dry. The rotation of the bolt within the bushing is so little that it can't reliably move any grease into the area needed.

Before the bushings are installed, a groove like a figure eight should be carved inside. It can be done with a tool like a Dremel and it doesn't need to be pretty, just don't go very deep as the bushings are very thin. Install the bolts so that the grease hole aligns with the intersection of the figure eight.
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