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01-27-2023, 01:28 PM
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I need a little help from my friends
There are so many travel trailers out there. I have searched until my head is spinning.
So far the ones I like best are both East to West Della Terra, models 200RD and 230RB.
https://www.easttowestrv.com/travel-...rra/200RD/5640
https://www.easttowestrv.com/travel-...rra/230RB/4834
Our criteria
Less than 30'
No slide
Walk Around Queen Bed
Shower separate from toilet and sink
The deal killer for us is the fridge on this model is a 12v. I really want a propane/electric fridge.
Can anyone tell me how long the 10.7 Cubic Foot Stainless Steel Refrigerator will run on two regular batteries?
Thanks friends!
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01-27-2023, 08:48 PM
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i like the floor plans, like the white or light wall coverings. BUT yes i would like a gas refrigerator.
Jay D.
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01-27-2023, 10:04 PM
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Assuming that the fridge is a Furrion Arctic 10 cu.ft. built-in 12V fridge, which has a spec power consumption of 1.08 kwhr per day, which means a power draw of 90 amp hrs per day at 12v. Two Trojan 6 v model 105 batteries (a highly rated battery) wired in series would run the fridge for around 30 hrs. This will vary depending on outside temps and how often door are opened. There are several post on this forum about the pros and cons of 12 v fridges. Bottom line is the 12v fridge is a good choice if you always have hookups, have a large solar system with large battery storage or you run a generator frequently.
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01-28-2023, 06:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ODH
Assuming that the fridge is a Furrion Arctic 10 cu.ft. built-in 12V fridge, which has a spec power consumption of 1.08 kwhr per day, which means a power draw of 90 amp hrs per day at 12v. Two Trojan 6 v model 105 batteries (a highly rated battery) wired in series would run the fridge for around 30 hrs. This will vary depending on outside temps and how often door are opened. There are several post on this forum about the pros and cons of 12 v fridges. Bottom line is the 12v fridge is a good choice if you always have hookups, have a large solar system with large battery storage or you run a generator frequently.
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Thank you. That helps a lot.
How long would a functional equivalent gas fridge run on 20 gallons of propane?
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01-28-2023, 06:39 AM
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I am still looking for a travel trailer with a layout like theses two East to West trailers with a gas fridge
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01-28-2023, 07:37 AM
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The 200 RD is a fantastic layout, I would not make the fridge a deal killer. Most new models have gone away from propane. As far as how long it would last, we used propane for the fridge, cooking and a couple showers, it went 2 weeks. I would estimate 3 weeks on the fridge alone but that is a guess.
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01-28-2023, 08:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MCCOHENS
The 200 RD is a fantastic layout, I would not make the fridge a deal killer. Most new models have gone away from propane. As far as how long it would last, we used propane for the fridge, cooking and a couple showers, it went 2 weeks. I would estimate 3 weeks on the fridge alone but that is a guess.
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I still see the gas fridge in some TTs, just not the layout we like. Plus, we like how the E2W does the underbelly
We just pivoted from looking at class Cs, and most of those were propane.
Seems like the lower costs TTs are taking the less expensive route of 12v refrigerators. Many of the websites do not even tell you what type of fridge a unit has. Makes this even harder.
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01-28-2023, 08:27 AM
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Otherwise, what would you do if I sang out of tune, just get up and walk out on me?
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01-28-2023, 08:44 AM
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About 2.5 years now camping with the Dometic 4101 10.4 cf compressor fridge. Nominally, it uses 50ah/day. In very hot weather 60ah/day. In cool ambients 40ah/day.
It’s impossible to live with that without committing to a major battery upgrade. We would have preferred an absorption fridge, but have come to love our compressor fridge. It’s big, it doesn’t need to be level, and it cools down really fast. We upgraded to 170ah LiFePo4 and now we have 300w of solar. This setup keeps our fridge happy while we are boondocking, and provides for all our other electrical needs. So, if you don’t mind spending a few extra bucks to do some upgrades, you’ll be happy with a compressor fridge. I’ve had absorption fridges for many years of RVing and would never go back to one. There are several tricks to use to keep a compressor fridge cold and not run up the electric tab.
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01-28-2023, 09:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marine359
About 2.5 years now camping with the Dometic 4101 10.4 cf compressor fridge. Nominally, it uses 50ah/day. In very hot weather 60ah/day. In cool ambients 40ah/day.
It’s impossible to live with that without committing to a major battery upgrade. We would have preferred an absorption fridge, but have come to love our compressor fridge. It’s big, it doesn’t need to be level, and it cools down really fast. We upgraded to 170ah LiFePo4 and now we have 300w of solar. This setup keeps our fridge happy while we are boondocking, and provides for all our other electrical needs. So, if you don’t mind spending a few extra bucks to do some upgrades, you’ll be happy with a compressor fridge. I’ve had absorption fridges for many years of RVing and would never go back to one. There are several tricks to use to keep a compressor fridge cold and not run up the electric tab.
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I wish I spoke your lingo.
60ah/day I guess means "amp hours"?
What is a "major battery upgrade"? Is that lithium, or deep cycle 6 volts in series? What other things are involved with a "major battery upgrade"?
Does "compressor fridge" use 12v?
Does an absorption fridge use propane? I thought propane refrigerators used 110V also?
A 12v fridge does not have to be level, but a propane one does? Is that just a consideration when you park, or also traveling down the road in the mountains?
I am afraid a solar upgrade might impair the integrity of my roof. Is that fear unfounded?
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01-28-2023, 11:59 AM
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Lithium battery $$$ solar panels$$$ controller $$$ while these are great upgrades for full time campers. I can't justify the cost for part time camping. Why not ask to have an absorption fridge put in?? Absorption refrigerators will run on 110 if you are plugged in and a campground and run on propane using a 12-volt controller which does not use a lot of power.
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01-28-2023, 12:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dustyone
Lithium battery $$$ solar panels$$$ controller $$$ while these are great upgrades for full time campers. I can't justify the cost for part time camping. Why not ask to have an absorption fridge put in?? Absorption refrigerators will run on 110 if you are plugged in and a campground and run on propane using a 12-volt controller which does not use a lot of power.
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The dealer I am talking to does not like the idea of putting in a propane fridge where it has a 12v from the factory. He mentioned venting as one obstacle.
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01-28-2023, 02:04 PM
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I was intrigued with the camper and did some research. While the layout and price are great it is a wood frame construction, which does not have a great reputation for longevity.
The layout you like is somewhat popular, maybe just keep looking. If you use RV trader or such do a search of trailers under 30 feet with no slides. Include used, just to find make and models with the layout you like.
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01-28-2023, 02:25 PM
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there seems to be a shortage of "no slide" TT, or at least they are not made in volume in my area.
Depending on how close to "under 30 feet" you want to be, this rig is loaded with essentials.
Floor length is 21' which may be too short for your needs
It's an Outdoors RV
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