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Old 03-22-2018, 01:13 PM   #1
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Is There a Difference (Weight Queston) Sorry

I am looking for a new trailer getting conflicting answers from dealers (Duh)..

Is there a difference between Base Dry Axle Weight and Unloaded Vehicle Weight? I am reading this on 2 different trailer brochures. (Jayco and Rockwood)

Sorry being a pest, but I have a Brand New 2017 Silverado 4x4 5.3 with 3.08 gearing and it can only tow max 6200#.

Had I known about the 3.08 gearing I would have NOT bought the truck... Another salesmen not telling the truth and the ALL Mighty Dollar is all he was worried about.......

Yes My Bad and should have known better.......
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Probably the same but Unloaded Vehicle Weight is the more common term. If you look on the left front of the trailers you are interested there'll be stickers that shows the cargo carrying capacity and it's GVWR. (There may be two stickers attached) Subract the CCC from the GVWR to find the unloaded weight. It does not include whatever equipment the dealer may have added on after it left the factory.
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Be more concerned with the GVWR of the trailer, not the empty and dry weight. You're not gonna take an empty trailer camping.
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I am looking for a new trailer getting conflicting answers from dealers (Duh)..

Is there a difference between Base Dry Axle Weight and Unloaded Vehicle Weight? I am reading this on 2 different trailer brochures. (Jayco and Rockwood)

Sorry being a pest, but I have a Brand New 2017 Silverado 4x4 5.3 with 3.08 gearing and it can only tow max 6200#.

Had I known about the 3.08 gearing I would have NOT bought the truck... Another salesmen not telling the truth and the ALL Mighty Dollar is all he was worried about.......

Yes My Bad and should have known better.......
Are you sure about its towing capacity? 6200 lbs seems pretty low.
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Be more concerned with the GCWR of the trailer, not the empty and dry weight. You're not gonna take an empty trailer camping.
GCWR? You probably mean the trailer's GVWR, not the truck and trailer combined weight rating.
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I am looking for a new trailer getting conflicting answers from dealers (Duh)..

Is there a difference between Base Dry Axle Weight and Unloaded Vehicle Weight? I am reading this on 2 different trailer brochures. (Jayco and Rockwood)

Sorry being a pest, but I have a Brand New 2017 Silverado 4x4 5.3 with 3.08 gearing and it can only tow max 6200#.

Had I known about the 3.08 gearing I would have NOT bought the truck... Another salesmen not telling the truth and the ALL Mighty Dollar is all he was worried about.......

Yes My Bad and should have known better.......
You will have to look at each manufacturers site to see what they include in the weight.

Dry may be without propane or any additional options.

Unloaded may be with propane and may or may not include options.
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GCWR? You probably mean the trailer's GVWR, not the truck and trailer combined weight rating.
Yes! The letters are really close on the keyboard.

GVWR
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Probably the same but Unloaded Vehicle Weight is the more common term. If you look on the left front of the trailers you are interested there'll be stickers that shows the cargo carrying capacity and it's GVWR. (There may be two stickers attached) Subract the CCC from the GVWR to find the unloaded weight. It does not include whatever equipment the dealer may have added on after it left the factory.
Thanks I guess I need to take pictures of the stickers because all I have to work with is the brochure.

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Be more concerned with the GVWR of the trailer, not the empty and dry weight. You're not gonna take an empty trailer camping.
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Are you sure about its towing capacity? 6200 lbs seems pretty low.
Yes unfortunately the manual that came with my truck breaks it all down to engine, trans, and rear end gearing...

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GCWR? You probably mean the trailer's GVWR, not the truck and trailer combined weight rating.
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You will have to look at each manufacturers site to see what they include in the weight.

Dry may be without propane or any additional options.

Unloaded may be with propane and may or may not include options.
I will do that

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Yes! The letters are really close on the keyboard.

GVWR
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The brochure dry weight is useless and does not include batteries, propane or bottles and may not include things like awnings or air conditioners if they were optional.The goal for them is to make the trailer sound as light as possible so more people think they can tow one. Since adding all those things eats up most of the 2500 pounds of cargo capacity listed, (estimate, may vary), you end up with about 1200 pounds of cargo capacity left when it finally hits the dealers lot. Add your gear and a tank of water and you are at gross trailer weight. Adds up fast.

The good news for you is that the gross weight is usually available and if not listed by itself you can add the UVW and cargo capacity to come up with it.
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You can change the rear end gearing for easier towing.
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You can change the rear end gearing for easier towing.
I'll second this post, it would be worth it IMHO. Then again just get a Lance and you'll have a great trailer and all will fit within your tow rating. I should add Lance is expensive but there's a reason for that.
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A 4x4 with 3.08s, really ?? Cripes that's tall.
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You can change the rear end gearing for easier towing.
I could but there will be 2 front and rear plus the computer would have to be re-programed.....Big $$$$$$$'s

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I'll second this post, it would be worth it IMHO. Then again just get a Lance and you'll have a great trailer and all will fit within your tow rating. I should add Lance is expensive but there's a reason for that.
There's a thought....I have looked at them maybe I need to look at them again..

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A 4x4 with 3.08s, really ?? Cripes that's tall.
Yup that's why I am getting close to 30mpg......
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If you're fulltiming or have to have the biggest trailer at the campground Lance isn't for you.

Lance is super high quality not as expensive as Airstream but they're built to last as opposed to the fall apart on the way home brands (most). Your tow vehicle will tow their entire lineup and they have entry of room for camping.
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