 |
|
03-22-2018, 01:13 PM
|
#1
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Central Valley, California
Posts: 1,649
|
Is There a Difference (Weight Queston) Sorry
I am looking for a new trailer getting conflicting answers from dealers (Duh)..
Is there a difference between Base Dry Axle Weight and Unloaded Vehicle Weight? I am reading this on 2 different trailer brochures. (Jayco and Rockwood)
Sorry being a pest, but I have a Brand New 2017 Silverado 4x4 5.3 with 3.08 gearing and it can only tow max 6200#.
Had I known about the 3.08 gearing I would have NOT bought the truck... Another salesmen not telling the truth and the ALL Mighty Dollar is all he was worried about.......
Yes My Bad and should have known better.......
__________________
2020 F-150 4x4 .......2019 Lance 1995
If you don't stand behind our TROOPS, Feel Free
to stand in front of them 
|
|
|
 |
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!
iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!
You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!
|
|
03-22-2018, 01:58 PM
|
#2
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 2,583
|
Probably the same but Unloaded Vehicle Weight is the more common term. If you look on the left front of the trailers you are interested there'll be stickers that shows the cargo carrying capacity and it's GVWR. (There may be two stickers attached) Subract the CCC from the GVWR to find the unloaded weight. It does not include whatever equipment the dealer may have added on after it left the factory.
|
|
|
|
|
03-22-2018, 02:10 PM
|
#3
|
|
Senior Member
Outdoors RV Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Nowhere, now here. Freedom!
Posts: 4,602
|
Be more concerned with the GVWR of the trailer, not the empty and dry weight. You're not gonna take an empty trailer camping.
__________________
ORV 19B Full Timer from '15 to '20, '14 Ram 2500 Diesel and a GSD. Vancouver, WA
de K7NOL 146.52Mhz Safety? (CLICK ME!)
|
|
|
|
|
03-22-2018, 02:12 PM
|
#4
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 2,583
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeB
I am looking for a new trailer getting conflicting answers from dealers (Duh)..
Is there a difference between Base Dry Axle Weight and Unloaded Vehicle Weight? I am reading this on 2 different trailer brochures. (Jayco and Rockwood)
Sorry being a pest, but I have a Brand New 2017 Silverado 4x4 5.3 with 3.08 gearing and it can only tow max 6200#.
Had I known about the 3.08 gearing I would have NOT bought the truck... Another salesmen not telling the truth and the ALL Mighty Dollar is all he was worried about.......
Yes My Bad and should have known better.......
|
Are you sure about its towing capacity? 6200 lbs seems pretty low.
|
|
|
|
|
03-22-2018, 02:16 PM
|
#5
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 2,583
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1bigmess
Be more concerned with the GCWR of the trailer, not the empty and dry weight. You're not gonna take an empty trailer camping.
|
GCWR? You probably mean the trailer's GVWR, not the truck and trailer combined weight rating.
|
|
|
|
|
03-22-2018, 02:24 PM
|
#6
|
|
Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 14,572
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeB
I am looking for a new trailer getting conflicting answers from dealers (Duh)..
Is there a difference between Base Dry Axle Weight and Unloaded Vehicle Weight? I am reading this on 2 different trailer brochures. (Jayco and Rockwood)
Sorry being a pest, but I have a Brand New 2017 Silverado 4x4 5.3 with 3.08 gearing and it can only tow max 6200#.
Had I known about the 3.08 gearing I would have NOT bought the truck... Another salesmen not telling the truth and the ALL Mighty Dollar is all he was worried about.......
Yes My Bad and should have known better.......
|
You will have to look at each manufacturers site to see what they include in the weight.
Dry may be without propane or any additional options.
Unloaded may be with propane and may or may not include options.
__________________
Gordon and Janet
Tour 42QD/InTech Stacker
|
|
|
|
|
03-22-2018, 02:33 PM
|
#7
|
|
Senior Member
Outdoors RV Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Nowhere, now here. Freedom!
Posts: 4,602
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by 60sumtin
GCWR? You probably mean the trailer's GVWR, not the truck and trailer combined weight rating.
|
Yes! The letters are really close on the keyboard.
GVWR
__________________
ORV 19B Full Timer from '15 to '20, '14 Ram 2500 Diesel and a GSD. Vancouver, WA
de K7NOL 146.52Mhz Safety? (CLICK ME!)
|
|
|
|
|
03-22-2018, 02:44 PM
|
#8
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Central Valley, California
Posts: 1,649
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by 60sumtin
Probably the same but Unloaded Vehicle Weight is the more common term. If you look on the left front of the trailers you are interested there'll be stickers that shows the cargo carrying capacity and it's GVWR. (There may be two stickers attached) Subract the CCC from the GVWR to find the unloaded weight. It does not include whatever equipment the dealer may have added on after it left the factory.
|
Thanks I guess I need to take pictures of the stickers because all I have to work with is the brochure.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1bigmess
Be more concerned with the GVWR of the trailer, not the empty and dry weight. You're not gonna take an empty trailer camping.
|
Good point
Quote:
Originally Posted by 60sumtin
Are you sure about its towing capacity? 6200 lbs seems pretty low.
|
Yes unfortunately the manual that came with my truck breaks it all down to engine, trans, and rear end gearing...
Quote:
Originally Posted by 60sumtin
GCWR? You probably mean the trailer's GVWR, not the truck and trailer combined weight rating.
|
Yup
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordon Dewald
You will have to look at each manufacturers site to see what they include in the weight.
Dry may be without propane or any additional options.
Unloaded may be with propane and may or may not include options.
|
I will do that
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1bigmess
Yes! The letters are really close on the keyboard.
GVWR
|
Ha ha ha
__________________
2020 F-150 4x4 .......2019 Lance 1995
If you don't stand behind our TROOPS, Feel Free
to stand in front of them
|
|
|
|
|
03-22-2018, 07:25 PM
|
#9
|
|
Senior Member
Outdoors RV Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 3,542
|
The brochure dry weight is useless and does not include batteries, propane or bottles and may not include things like awnings or air conditioners if they were optional.The goal for them is to make the trailer sound as light as possible so more people think they can tow one. Since adding all those things eats up most of the 2500 pounds of cargo capacity listed, (estimate, may vary), you end up with about 1200 pounds of cargo capacity left when it finally hits the dealers lot. Add your gear and a tank of water and you are at gross trailer weight. Adds up fast.
The good news for you is that the gross weight is usually available and if not listed by itself you can add the UVW and cargo capacity to come up with it.
__________________
2020 F28 RKS Titanium
2017 Creekside 23 RBS Sold
2016 F250 Super Crew XLT Overworked
|
|
|
|
|
03-22-2018, 08:05 PM
|
#10
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 643
|
You can change the rear end gearing for easier towing.
__________________
2000 Coleman Tacoma Pop-Up
2006 Ford Explorer XLT, 4.0L-V6, 4x2
|
|
|
|
|
03-22-2018, 08:35 PM
|
#11
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 366
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Desert Flyer
You can change the rear end gearing for easier towing.
|
I'll second this post, it would be worth it IMHO. Then again just get a Lance and you'll have a great trailer and all will fit within your tow rating. I should add Lance is expensive but there's a reason for that.
|
|
|
|
|
03-22-2018, 08:35 PM
|
#12
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Chetwynd, BC
Posts: 291
|
A 4x4 with 3.08s, really ?? Cripes that's tall.
__________________
Brentw
3500 Duramax dually
Fuzion 325 Toy Hauler with a GL1800 Goldwing
|
|
|
|
|
03-22-2018, 08:50 PM
|
#13
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Central Valley, California
Posts: 1,649
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Desert Flyer
You can change the rear end gearing for easier towing.
|
I could but there will be 2 front and rear plus the computer would have to be re-programed.....Big $$$$$$$'s
Quote:
Originally Posted by cdoorider
I'll second this post, it would be worth it IMHO. Then again just get a Lance and you'll have a great trailer and all will fit within your tow rating. I should add Lance is expensive but there's a reason for that.
|
There's a thought....I have looked at them maybe I need to look at them again..
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brentw
A 4x4 with 3.08s, really ?? Cripes that's tall.
|
Yup that's why I am getting close to 30mpg......
__________________
2020 F-150 4x4 .......2019 Lance 1995
If you don't stand behind our TROOPS, Feel Free
to stand in front of them
|
|
|
|
|
03-23-2018, 11:22 AM
|
#14
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 366
|
If you're fulltiming or have to have the biggest trailer at the campground Lance isn't for you.
Lance is super high quality not as expensive as Airstream but they're built to last as opposed to the fall apart on the way home brands (most). Your tow vehicle will tow their entire lineup and they have entry of room for camping.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
|
| Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
|
| Display Modes |
 Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
» Recent Discussions |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
