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tuffr2 · 11-19-2018, 07:32 PM

Is 100aH a relatively a big and good battery choice or are there better ones. I wonder what this battery will cost in a in a year or two.

I think in will need one next spring.

jcussen · 11-19-2018, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tuffr2

Is 100aH a relatively a big and good battery choice or are there better ones. I wonder what this battery will cost in a in a year or two.

I think in will need one next spring.

https://battlebornbatteries.com/shop...cycle-battery/
Heard good things about this one.

Cowpie1 · 11-19-2018, 10:47 PM

LifeBlue has LI batts in 100, 125, 150, 200, and 300 AH. Every battery has bluetooth connectivity via their app for you smartphone.

Here is their app information on what you can do with your batts....
Documents for LiFeBlue RV Boat Lithium Ion Bluetooth Battery

HoneyBadger · 11-19-2018, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowpie1

LifeBlue has LI batts in 100, 125, 150, 200, and 300 AH. Every battery has bluetooth connectivity via their app for you smartphone.

Here is their app information on what you can do with your batts....
Documents for LiFeBlue RV Boat Lithium Ion Bluetooth Battery

Thanks for the link!

Oldelevatorman · 11-19-2018, 11:51 PM

Check out ‘RV with the Tanners’ on YouTube and his Lithium install. He installed 6, 100-amp BattleBorns in his fifth wheel along with the GoPower 2kw inverter. He said he’d need 48 AGM’s to do what those 6 are capable of! Also another great video is ‘Morton’s on the Move’ and his Tesla battery install!

tuffr2 · 11-20-2018, 03:10 AM

Wow, I will watch those videos. Great info and I am learning things.

Thanks

garbonz · 11-21-2018, 06:07 AM

It is hard to overstate the performance of the battleborn batteries and the other similar products. The fast charge, low voltage drop and high discharge rate are game changers. PLUS they don’t mind being used at partial SOC levels, which are death for lead acid.

If you don’t have them, and drycamp with an inverter, you simply can’t even imagine how all these characteristics combine to be Awesome.

PS I don’t like the progressive LI chargers, voltage to high and no float. I use the regular progressive charger with a charge wizard to choose which stage, but mostly use solar 400watts and the engine to charge and a victron to monitor.

tuffr2 · 11-21-2018, 06:30 AM

Lithium batteries, LED lighting, Velcro - three of the best inventions in my lifetime.
I switched out all my old battery tools, like flash lights, drills, electric shavers etc to lithium power.

I have not tried one for my trailer but I can imagine how much better it will be. Trying to dry camp with the old lead acid batteries is really not easy. I can imagine a lithium battery will make it much more doable and pleasant.

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Utah banjo · 11-22-2018, 09:17 AM

Be aware that if you do go with lithium, you may need to change the settings on your controller. Battle Borne requires 14.4v bulk charge and 13.6v float. No equalization. With my Go-Power controller, which has no Lithium setting, I use the AGM setting and get those outputs.

tuffr2 · 11-22-2018, 10:44 AM

Probably in 20 years lithium batteries will be on all trailers. Lighter and way more efficient is a win win.

FL420 · 11-22-2018, 02:04 PM

I am a big fan of lithium batteries in general. We boondock a lot and I would love to have over 1200 watts of solar and two lithium batteries like my camping buddy has on his Monaco Windsor.
Besides limited disposable income the main thing stopping me is a video I saw as part of some recurrent airline training some years back.
I think it was produced by the FAA who put a lithium battery powered laptop on an airline serving cart. IIRC, they overcharged it until it got very hot, began to smoke a little and then burst into flames.
The rest of the video showed them trying to unsuccessfully extinguish the fire using the onboard water extinguishers, coffee pots full of water, chemical extinguishers, blankets, etc. Basically all the resources available on an airliner in flight.
The take away was move all the pax away from the fire and keep trying to cool it off with water soaked and ice covered blankets while declaring an emergency and landing the aircraft ASAP.
I am usually not an early adopter of new technology especially if it may fry me. I try to never say never but in this case I plan on waiting awhile and watch from the sidelines. I'm sure technology will advance sufficiently to solve this problem if it hasn't already.

Nwcid · 11-22-2018, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by FL420

Besides limited disposable income the main thing stopping me is a video I saw as part of some recurrent airline training some years back.
I think it was produced by the FAA who put a lithium battery powered laptop on an airline serving cart. IIRC, they overcharged it until it got very hot, began to smoke a little and then burst into flames.

Not all lithium batteries are the same. There are many different chemical make ups. While what you state is VERY true for some lithium batteries, it is not for the ones typically used in hybrid cars and RVs.

5 Types of Lithium Ion Batteries

garbonz · 11-22-2018, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Utah banjo

Be aware that if you do go with lithium, you may need to change the settings on your controller. Battle Borne requires 14.4v bulk charge and 13.6v float. No equalization. With my Go-Power controller, which has no Lithium setting, I use the AGM setting and get those outputs.

If you really look into BB’s they are not to exceed 14.4, don’t need or want any float at all. Best to leave them alone until they get down a ways like 40% and then pull them back up to 13.8v or so. That’s better than 90%. Never leave them sitting at full charge. What the brochures say is not really the best way to treat these baby’s, it is drop in marketing hype.

Itinerant1 · 11-23-2018, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by FL420

I am a big fan of lithium batteries in general. We boondock a lot and I would love to have over 1200 watts of solar and two lithium batteries like my camping buddy has on his Monaco Windsor.
Besides limited disposable income the main thing stopping me is a video I saw as part of some recurrent airline training some years back.
I think it was produced by the FAA who put a lithium battery powered laptop on an airline serving cart. IIRC, they overcharged it until it got very hot, began to smoke a little and then burst into flames.
The rest of the video showed them trying to unsuccessfully extinguish the fire using the onboard water extinguishers, coffee pots full of water, chemical extinguishers, blankets, etc. Basically all the resources available on an airliner in flight.
The take away was move all the pax away from the fire and keep trying to cool it off with water soaked and ice covered blankets while declaring an emergency and landing the aircraft ASAP.
I am usually not an early adopter of new technology especially if it may fry me. I try to never say never but in this case I plan on waiting awhile and watch from the sidelines. I'm sure technology will advance sufficiently to solve this problem if it hasn't already.

As stated different chemistry. Lifepo4 will be the chemistry of drop in style or prismatic cell build your batteries.
Watch this video with extreme torture test...no fires.
https://youtu.be/p21iZVFHEZk