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Old 09-25-2021, 03:16 PM   #1
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Looking for a specific floorplan…does it exist?

I’ve been looking at different trailers for a while now and can’t seem the find the combination of floorplan/features that would be ideal for my family.

I love the idea of something like a Rockwood 2509S, but my wife wants to stick to something the size of a GeoPro. So ideally we would want something no longer than ~22 feet.

The main features we want are:

- bunks
- Murphy bed
- slide with U-shapes dinette
- bathroom with sink
- gas oven with 3 burner stove in kitchen
- tandem axle
- aluminum frame
- laminated exterior

I’m basically looking for a 2509s that’s about 3-4 feet shorter. Does this exist? Something like a cross between Winnebago 2100BH and a Jayco 199MBs would get us close.

As far as weights, we’re towing with a 2021 RAM 1500 with a 1656lb payload capacity, and family weight is about ~500lbs all together (myself, wife, and two toddlers). So we have 900-1000lbs for tongue weight + WDH. Like I mentioned, 2509S is perfect if not for the wife’s preference.
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You're not gonna get all that <22'. A Lance 19 has a bed/sofa that is nice but no way is there room for bunks unless you rig them somehow.
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Old 09-25-2021, 05:06 PM   #3
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You're not gonna get all that <22'. A Lance 19 has a bed/sofa that is nice but no way is there room for bunks unless you rig them somehow.
It may not currently exist, but it feels like it should based on other floorplans in that size range:

- Winnie 2100BH is 22’ and is tandem axle.
- Jayco 199MBS is about the same size and has nearly all the other features I mentioned above.

I just need a combination of the two! I feel like a manufacturer would have a home run on their hands if they built that.
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Old 09-25-2021, 09:59 PM   #4
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KZ Escape E201BH, 23’-8”, is as close as I can find.
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If that configuration sold well you'd better believe they all would be building them. All we can do as consumers is find the one most outfitted like we want. Hope your find your unicorn, looking is half the fun. Where did you find a woman that wanted less?
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Old 09-26-2021, 08:18 AM   #6
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If that configuration sold well you'd better believe they all would be building them. All we can do as consumers is find the one most outfitted like we want. Hope your find your unicorn, looking is half the fun. Where did you find a woman that wanted less?
Wants less isn’t totally it. She wants all those features (a lot!). She just wants it in a smaller package due to being our first trailer and nerves about size/parking/towing ease/etc.
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Wants less isn’t totally it. She wants all those features (a lot!). She just wants it in a smaller package due to being our first trailer and nerves about size/parking/towing ease/etc.
You may want to visit the Winnieowners forum and read the Micro-mini thread to get an accurate assessment of the 2100bh:
https://www.winnieowners.com/forums/...290423-28.html

I can assure you that my micro-mini which a bit longer than the 2100bh is a dream to tow due to its 7ft width and tandem axles. Easy, relaxing tow with just my mid-size. The trade off though is less interior space. But it feels spacious with the slide out and Murphy bed up.
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In the grand scheme of things the 3-4 feet won’t be a big deal in towing or backing up. Just find a big parking lot and practice.

Where the 3-4 feet will be a big deal is when it rains and the toddlers get older.

Save yourself some money in long run and get the bigger trailer now instead of 3-4 years from now.
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You may want to visit the Winnieowners forum and read the Micro-mini thread to get an accurate assessment of the 2100bh:
https://www.winnieowners.com/forums/...290423-28.html

I can assure you that my micro-mini which a bit longer than the 2100bh is a dream to tow due to its 7ft width and tandem axles. Easy, relaxing tow with just my mid-size. The trade off though is less interior space. But it feels spacious with the slide out and Murphy bed up.

2100BH would be my preference for a smaller unit, if only it had the U-shaped dinette, bathroom sink, Murphy bed the wife wants.
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In the grand scheme of things the 3-4 feet won’t be a big deal in towing or backing up. Just find a big parking lot and practice.

Where the 3-4 feet will be a big deal is when it rains and the toddlers get older.

Save yourself some money in long run and get the bigger trailer now instead of 3-4 years from now.
Yeah I’d love to push my wife to the larger 2509S. She also read about tongue weights and isn’t convinced the 900-1000lbs payload after passengers we have available is adequate for the 2509S since some people reported them getting over 1000lbs loaded.
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If you're calculating tongue wt that closely then you're waving a red flag at a bull. Get a bigger TV or a lighter TT.
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If you're calculating tongue wt that closely then you're waving a red flag at a bull. Get a bigger TV or a lighter TT.
Yep, which is why we are looking for something in the 22foot range, but with the features outlined in the original post.
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Take a look at the ORV 21RWS like I have. If you are at all handy you could rig up something for the little mons, er, kiddies that would fit in the dinette area. It wouldn't be all that hard. During the day and while using the dinette the bunk pieces could be stowed alongside the bed. Then remove the dinette table and rig the bunk. Of course the dinette becomes a bed anyway which is even simpler. That takes one minute. Two kids can sleep on it easily.
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Yeah I’d love to push my wife to the larger 2509S. She also read about tongue weights and isn’t convinced the 900-1000lbs payload after passengers we have available is adequate for the 2509S since some people reported them getting over 1000lbs loaded.
Check into heavier duty rear springs and shocks which will add to the weight you can have on the tongue. You can also adjust the tongue weight somewhat by carefully loading the TT. You will need a good weight distributing hitch.
I wouldn't recommend pulling a 35' Fifth wheel camper but a 25' /26' TT should be no problem with a couple mods. You will find the longer TT is actually easier to back up than a shorter TT.
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